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I am taking articles directly out of Article Builder and putting into TBS, modifying them significantly and attempting to submit them but the percent Unique is very low, so they can not be submitted .. (TBS says 9% and 1waylinks.com states it is 0%)

As a test, I took past recent articles that had been reviewed, approved and posted on the blogs before and placing them in TBS. I am getting only 8-9% percent unique, so I could not re-submit them by this measurement.

Something has changed in the measurement process, what are the new rules and why no notice???

I as well am having multiple articles shot down that have been generated by Article Builder, put thru TBS and submitted. Articles that I changed significantly and re-submitted 2-3 times and finally gave up in frustration.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2012, 04:54:42 PM by Rich K »

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Re: Article Builder & TBS: Have the standards for Percent Unique Changed?
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2012, 09:16:54 PM »
Yes, you are right. TBS3 calculates uniqueness differently.

I am not surprised by the uniqueness number.

Our study shows you can cross 25% uniqueness only through sentence rewrites and word/ phrases spins together. The higher the uniqueness you need the more number of sentence versions you will need.

However it is also possible to cross 25% by a lot of nested spins if you dislike sentence rewrites.

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Re: Article Builder & TBS: Have the standards for Percent Unique Changed?
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2012, 12:02:33 AM »
Hi,

I sentence spin my articles and they have 3 variations of each sentence and get about 30% in 1 Way Articles.
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Re: Article Builder & TBS: Have the standards for Percent Unique Changed?
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2012, 12:18:11 AM »
Hi,

I sentence spin my articles and they have 3 variations of each sentence and get about 30% in 1 Way Articles.

If you wanna get the uniqueification going well then take 10 AB articles and spin each paragraph together within AB. Don't do anything else. Problem solved.

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Re: Article Builder & TBS: Have the standards for Percent Unique Changed?
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2012, 12:26:38 AM »

If you wanna get the uniqueification going well then take 10 AB articles and spin each paragraph together within AB. Don't do anything else. Problem solved.

Hi,

I'm not the one with the problem. The OP is. ;)

I'm getting 30% at least and they are getting 0%.
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Re: Article Builder & TBS: Have the standards for Percent Unique Changed?
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2012, 01:22:02 AM »
JJ,

Are you getting 30% uniqueness on TBS3? Are 1WL and TBS3 uniqueness numbers in sync?

I already made a post that in TBS3 if you generate and spin versions the uniqueness numbers displayed are comparatively higher compared to waht is displayed at the bottom of the usual screen.

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Re: Article Builder & TBS: Have the standards for Percent Unique Changed?
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2012, 01:27:33 AM »
Hi,

That's in 1 Way Links. I just edited an article and it was 37%. I haven't installed TBS 3, but TBS 2 has that at 97% as that only gives a score on how much of the article is spun rather than what the uniqueness is.
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Re: Article Builder & TBS: Have the standards for Percent Unique Changed?
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2012, 02:45:37 AM »
Hmmm... I thought I'd take a look.
I made an article from the Tips doohickey. Non super spun, on 'web hosting'. Took 10 versions, spun the paragraphs together using the AB advanced tools.

Pasted the output into TBS3, no changes whatsoever. Initial result, bottom right hand corner 92% unique - this is congruent with what I see whenever I do this. high 80's to high 90's. I then ran the Generate and Compare utility and with a 10 article comparison there is a range of results on the matrix (as expected) with a low of 71% to a high of 100% unique, again exactly in line with what I'd expect to see.

Knowing that different tools work in different ways I popped the seed article into Rewrite Rocket and did a check, again, largely the same result.

How do you guys manage to get a figure that is so low? (rhetorical questions, I can see how it is happening)
I confess, if using this content, I can not see a good reason, for the time being at least, to be even thinking about rewriting this stuff other than to replace keywords.

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Re: Article Builder & TBS: Have the standards for Percent Unique Changed?
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2012, 02:55:20 AM »
Hi,

Anything is possible. Someone on another forum once asked why they were getting 0% uniqueness and it turned out they were spinning 6 of the words in a 1600 word article. :D
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Re: Article Builder & TBS: Have the standards for Percent Unique Changed?
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2012, 05:49:16 AM »
Andrew,

The problem at TBS3 uniqueness indicator at the bottom right of the screen, I suspect, is that it is actually making a short cut to give that indicative figure. I also suspect that that short cut is linked tothe structure or set up of the spin.

I have made a detailed analysis of different types of spin set ups and the ranges of uniqueness percentages. And I noticed that in many situations, the uniqueness numbers on Generate and Compare screens are not in sync with the uniqueness indicator at the bottom right of the main screen.

Now the other question. If your niche or targeted keyword is being served by Article Builder your method of spinning is enough. Now what about all other possible niches or topics for which not enough people are looking for content? They have no choice but to create and spin content some other way.

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Re: Article Builder & TBS: Have the standards for Percent Unique Changed?
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2012, 06:02:45 AM »
JJ,

I had pasted 3 different spun articles that had 3 sentence variations all over on TBS3 today after reading your earlier message and all of them returned less than 10% uniqueness on the main screen. When I checked the Generate and Compare the results looked very different.

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Re: Article Builder & TBS: Have the standards for Percent Unique Changed?
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2012, 06:15:53 AM »
SNM as you maybe missed, I took the article and used the Generate and Compare tool to get a range of results that confirms the accuracy of the basic figure. I also used another application to get similar indicative results.

All other combinations that you have studied and analysed in depth are, to be honest, irrelevant here where we are looking at a single case. ;) However, I think that if you used Generate and Compare you'd discover that your insights might be a little misled given that the figure shown in bottom right corner is a sampling and different samples will give different results.

In truth this analysis is not actually needed as one can infer from the simple action of spinning ten separate articles paragraph by paragraph that one SHOULD get a degree of difference in this range. Thus, if degree of difference is an issue, why not simply do the obvious and increase the number and variety of content making the seed spin-ready content.

There is no real need to use ten articles to start the process, in most cases three articles spun together will do the job (on a 700 word target output) A sample there gives an average of 92% but with a much wider spread from a low of 27% difference to a high of 100%. To be honest I have been doing this since before Article Builder came along, AB just made it much, much easier. ;)

That is why I wondered why people are making their lives difficult. Bearing in mind that this thread is about TBS and AB we need not concern ourselves with the overwhelming majority of the universe that does NOT use these tools. Our interest here is only that tiny subset of folks who DO have these tools.

So, 3 (or more) 700 word length, AB tips articles, spun together at paragraph level, WILL give in almost all cases, output that is more than 30% different to any other article generated from the same seed material.

- Try it and see. But if you STILL doubt it, do the maths. ;)

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Re: Article Builder & TBS: Have the standards for Percent Unique Changed?
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2012, 07:16:18 AM »
Andrew,

I eat and breathe spinning so to say.

Your experience is perfect for yourself though.

Let this matter be put to rest here.

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« Last Edit: January 11, 2012, 07:26:28 AM by snm »

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A quick update to this thread about AB and uniqueness.

I had suggested spinning the AB content. Until recently one could spin a maximum of ten iterations of AB content. This gives very good results. However, a couple of weeks ago the limit was raised to 20 articles per spin. Degree of difference simply is not an issue here. No need to be rewriting except in this: if one wants more 'unique' titles then one is going to have to either spin what is produced, write more titles or get AB to generate more articles.