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Hey there,
I really like what I've read so far about 1WL - it seems very similar to another service I've used (which I believe I am not supposed to mention, but let's say functionally it seems the same but I was disappointed in the results of other service).

I do have a handful of questions - thanks in advance for any and all answers!

#1: What post count are people finding success with?
I read supersi's post (and manual).  In his initial response (second post in the "How to succeed with 1WayLinks.net" thread) he said he does 100 posts per "campaign" (250 was too much).  In his manual which I assume is updated, he says 600 posts per "campaign".    What are people using these days?

(supersi: what are you currently using?)

#2: What's a "campaign"?
What exactly is a campaign?  Does that mean for a website?  Like if I have website abcd.com I am building links to, that is one campaign? 

#3: Different website links in same post or deep linking in post?
Since you are allowed 3 links in each post, are people finding more success utilizing the links to three different sites?  Or instead 3 different pages on the same site (deep linking)

#4: Can you spin your URL?
Doesn't seem like you can, but I was thinking I would for example use
link #1: main site
link #2: spin the categories on my site..if I have five categories, I would want equal opportunity for each category
link #3: spin the pages on my site..if I have five pages, I would want equal opportunity for each

something like (formatted for better readabilty)
{ <a href="firsturl">{first-keyword1|first-keyword2}</a> |
   <a href="secondurl">{second-keyword1|second-keyword2}</a> |
   <a href="thirdurl">{third-keyword1|third-keyword2}</a> }

#5: blogs on different class C setup? How?
So I'm reading once you add a new blog you have 50 more posts.  Does that mean I have to basically pay $5-$6 per month for hosting (plus $10 domain), let's call it roughly $6.50 a month to get 50 new posts = 150 links?

If so, what method are people using to get these new blogs?  I can think of only maybe 10 to 15 hosting companies off the top of my head I could put a new blog on.  Do I need 50 different hosting companies?

Thanks in advance!!!!

Emil

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Re: Few questions: post count, cheapest new blog hosting, URL spinning?
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2012, 05:05:12 AM »
Hi,

I'm going with these for my hosting http://www.cclassiphosting.com/seo-hosting.html EDIT: SEE LATEST NEGATIVE POST AT http://jlforums.com/1waylinks-net/few-questions-post-count-cheapest-new-blog-hosting-url-spinning/msg46752/#msg46752

I just tried these here http://ideastack.com/seo-hosting.html and they have the worst support I've ever encountered on the internet. They don't answer questions properly and then when you finally get the point they then ask you what you need.

You can host your domains for $1 a month with both of these. All on different C Class IP addresses.

Your other questions I can't answer. :)
« Last Edit: January 19, 2012, 07:49:00 AM by Meg »
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Re: Few questions: post count, cheapest new blog hosting, URL spinning?
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2012, 05:41:36 AM »
#4 -Yes, you can do that and it should work fine

#2 - Not sure where you get the 'Campaign' from.. haven't seen that in my account. Just creating new posts and managing them.

#1 - As many as I can get  ;-)

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Re: Few questions: post count, cheapest new blog hosting, URL spinning?
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2012, 11:19:40 AM »
Thanks for your responses so far guys! Much appreciated

For campaigns, that was a term used in in this thread:

"How to succeed with 1WayLinks.net"
http://jlforums.com/1waylinks-net/how-to-succeed-with-1waylinks-net/

supersi's response:
"Now I am using 100 per month (per campaign/article).  I used to use 250 each month, but after some testing actually got better results by using less.  Maybe 250 in 30 days is too many, too quickly.  I am still testing this out, but in the past 2 months have seen better progress in rankings using only 100 per month.  I would love to hear feedback from other members regarding this.  "

supersi also has a link in his sig to a great free document:
"How To Succeed With 1WayLinks"
http://www.onewaylinkbuilding.net/01/1WL-Success.zip

In it he states:

"In my experience the more posts, the better. The number of posts I use and recommend you to use is 600 posts per month, per campaign. I have tested this extensively and consistently found that more posts are far superior in producing results in ranking as compared to fewer posts."

Which is different than what he posted ... so that's why my questions were

1) Please define campaign?  Wasn't sure what that meant (I thought it was a 1WL term).  Is one site = one campaign?

If campaign is not a 1WL term, maybe someone can just outline a strategy they've been using that has worked for them?

2) So what is better: 200 or 600 or ...?

Because I can see right now just to do one campaign of 600 posts I'd need to buy a membership (250) and then get seven blogs up to get up to 600 posts..and that's just for one "campaign".  What if I want to run three campaigns?  Then I need another 24 blogs up.  And that's why I had the next question of what's the cheapest way people are using to get additional blogs up?

Just trying to get my head wrapped around the cost involved for wanting to get links back to 20 sites.

Thanks again in advance for clarification!

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Re: Few questions: post count, cheapest new blog hosting, URL spinning?
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2012, 11:22:00 AM »
Hi,

I'm going with these for my hosting http://www.cclassiphosting.com/seo-hosting.html

I just tried these here http://ideastack.com/seo-hosting.html and they have the worst support I've ever encountered on the internet. They don't answer questions properly and then when you finally get the point they then ask you what you need.

You can host your domains for $1 a month with both of these. All on different C Class IP addresses.

Your other questions I can't answer. :)

Hey there!
Thanks for the link.

I checked out the cclassiphosting

It says on the base plan these features:

    * 5 C Class IP's
    * 1GB Space
    * 10GB Bandwidth
    * 25 Addon Domains
    * $2 / C Class IP

So does that mean you will get 5 IPs, each on its own class C?   And you can choose which class C you want to host the additional domain on?

Not bad ...

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Re: Few questions: post count, cheapest new blog hosting, URL spinning?
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2012, 10:18:32 PM »
HI,

I purchased my 30 IP address package from cclassiphosting 40 hours ago and my account is still pending.

You contact sales and don't get any answer, and when you contact support they tell you to contact sales. I will be filing a dispute at Paypal when it gets to 48 hours.

Then then next cheapest one I can find does IP addresses at $2 each. http://www.seohost.com/

I guess if you're going to pay $1 an IP address the support isn't going to be great.
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Re: Few questions: post count, cheapest new blog hosting, URL spinning?
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2012, 04:20:15 AM »
Hi,

Started the dispute at Paypal and have gone with http://www.seohost.com/  now.

Lets see how they do. :)
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Re: Few questions: post count, cheapest new blog hosting, URL spinning?
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2012, 05:35:42 AM »
jj, do those guys  (seohost.com) use cPanel or do they foist you off with Plesk or similar? I ask because they seem very cheap, they offer 'Installatron' rather than Fantastico) and the control panel is a big cost save option (at the cost of many tools not working on anything other than cPanel)

I saw that their cheapo packages are shared IPs, which will be fine for the cross linking thing but sharing with what will I am sure be very often 'bad neighbours' is a less good plan. The reason I think you may find bad neigbours is that one really only wants to use cheap multiple IP hosting for stuff that is more likely than normal to be bad neighbour stuff.

For $19.99 they will give you your own IP and nameservers but still you get Installatron but now with WHM/Cpanel to manage your sites.

For years I worked with these guys: http://www.seohosting.com/hosting-plans.php WHM/cPanel hosting, reliable servers and excellent customer service. Actually is a part of Hostgator. Sadly they charge more money though - 5 dedicated IPs, personalised name servers and WHM/cPanel to control everything.
Over the years with SEOHosting and Hostgator the biggest single issue apart from service quality is that upgrading through service levels is very easy and well managed - no sites getting bumped for overage of resource use or similar.
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Re: Few questions: post count, cheapest new blog hosting, URL spinning?
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2012, 08:09:29 PM »
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1) Please define campaign?  Wasn't sure what that meant (I thought it was a 1WL term).  Is one site = one campaign?
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My definition of a campaign would be the totality of things one would do to get his or her website ranking on page 1 of Google, etc. for the relevant group of KWs.

As applies to 1WL, a campaign would be all the posts made and submitted for the KW's for a website you were promoting (essentially a subset of the variety of things being done in the overall campaign.) The basic element of such a campaign in 1WL would be a post submitted and made for a certain time-frame, number of postings and KW's included. A campaign would consist of one or more such posts.  That campaign would start with you laying out your plan. It would get underway with your first post in the campaign. It would end when you either achieve your goal or give up and try something else...

Like in a military campaign, it's not a defined amount of work but a series of efforts all aimed at achieving your goal, whether it be to take and hold a certain piece of terrain/real estate (military) or achieving a certain ranking for each of a group of KWs (Internet Marketing SEO)

Re: Cost-effective web hosting, I suggest that you read the post on my blog, which is named in my signature below...

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Re: Few questions: post count, cheapest new blog hosting, URL spinning?
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2012, 11:14:15 PM »
Hi Andrew,

It's WHM and CPanel. And so far their customer service is excellent. Even over the weekend.

They set up all the namesevers and IP addresses and then you just have to set the nameservers at your registrar.

You can use your own nameservers from your domain names if you want, but you have to assign an IP address at each one so I think you may be paying double if that counts against the IP addresses that you use for your domains. I'm just going to use there nameservers as they give you a different one for each domain.
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Re: Few questions: post count, cheapest new blog hosting, URL spinning?
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2012, 03:56:18 AM »
Hi,

Do not go with this company http://www.cclassiphosting.com/seo-hosting.html

They've taken my payment and have ignored all my emails and Paypal won't give me my money back because it's not physical goods.

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Re: Few questions: post count, cheapest new blog hosting, URL spinning?
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2012, 04:52:54 PM »
Hi,

Do not go with this company http://www.cclassiphosting.com/seo-hosting.html

They've taken my payment and have ignored all my emails and Paypal won't give me my money back because it's not physical goods.



JJ, sorry to hear about all the troubles man.  Much appreciation for posting your findings here.

I'm a bit far off yet from using 1WL.  When I do I will definitely post my findings as well when I try out some SEO IP hosting companies.



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Re: Few questions: post count, cheapest new blog hosting, URL spinning?
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2012, 04:56:20 PM »

Hope this helps...

Thanks, it does.  I was a bit confused at first.   

Have you found a sweet spot for number of links per month for your own activities? 

Thanks guys for posting your experience and info.



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Re: Few questions: post count, cheapest new blog hosting, URL spinning?
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2012, 03:28:15 PM »
Do not go with this company http://www.cclassiphosting.com/seo-hosting.html

I second that, they just took my money and ran. The WHM worked (well it's not a true WHM) for about 2 weeks, then it went down and support nor ANYONE at that company will reply. I filed a dispute with paypal but most likely just lost several hundred dollars.

DO NOT GIVE YOUR MONEY TO CCLASSIPHOSTING unless you are giving money away and if that's the case, tell me where to line up.