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High Quality Content And Adjusting With The Times
« on: January 18, 2012, 12:38:17 AM »
 Jon you made a pretty good point yesterday why 1waylinks post panda needs to be more focused on quality content. You said "That was fine pre-Panda. But now if you want long-term success from your links they better appear on high quality content. 1WL has to adjust with the times. If you dont adjust with the times you may as well be doing reciprocal linking still."

I agree links should be on high quality content. However, IMO most high quality content contains alot more than just text. High quality content contains videos, pictures and other forms of media which 1WL still does not have available after over 3 or so years of being created. If you are going to preach high quality content and adjusting with the times 1WL is way behind.

How about start focusing on how to make the content more engaging and of higher quality if not 1WL may as well be ezinearticles from 7 years ago... nothing more than overly edited text and still after all the advancements in media they fail to do anything other than text years later... no videos, no pictures.. just plain ol boring text that IMO is far from being high quality no matter how much your editors review it.. so if you really want to put out high quality content on this network lets get the basics down of high quality content creation.
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Re: High Quality Content And Adjusting With The Times
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2012, 05:52:05 AM »
Without reference to 1waylinks, this is something that has caused me to think. On my sites I try to cover this angle. I have videos and often pics. I tried audio.
I use video content from a licensed source but it can't easily be used on individual posts - but network site owners could - if they chose to install the scripts.
I buy in and licence some pics and allow users to post pics as long as they indemnify my by their agreement to ToS but across a blog network, how to do that?

Here's the thing.

When we write text it is pretty easy to understand the IP issues. If we write something we can be pretty sure that it will not infringe copyright just by taking very easy and basic precautions.
This absolutely NOT the case with video, audio or images - albeit that if we have the time audio is not too hard to manage if we record our own.

For my sites I buy in images from a very well respected source with guarantees that I am indemnified for the use on the site for which I purchase them. If I want to use them on other sites then the cost goes up several thousand percent. If I want to use Flickr or other sites that offer CC licensing it is almost impossible to be sure of the validity of the licence and there is no indemnity. As a publisher with many UGC based sites I will not take the risk of publishing user provided pics except in certain well defined situations. When syndicating I do not use pics because I can not guarantee that I can do so without indemnifying the site owner.

One way that some might suggest would be to incorporate Zemanta into the system but Zemanta make it crystal clear that they make no warranty about the IP rights for the suggestions they make so as a publisher that is not good enough - I'd not accept content with images from Zemanta unless I chose them myself and that due to time constraints would rule me out of the blog network post accepting niche - if I wanted it I could already do it, yes?

With video we can use YouTube embedding, I know of one network that allows users to do this. I can see some benefit here, not least because the control of the embed lies with YouTube and they can turn off the video at any time. Site owners take almost no risk in this case. However from what I have seen most syndicators do not bother using the tool they have had for several years.

So, how would you suggest that Jon were to implement video and images without a huge investment in time and money related to ensuring that IP issues are dealt with in a cast iron manner? I'd be interested to know because it would make my life as a publisher easier!

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Re: High Quality Content And Adjusting With The Times
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2012, 11:08:33 AM »
Images and video are not significant factors in whether or not Google deindexes, bans or slaps a site. The improvement in quality is for the purpose of ensuring the network remain vibrant and well indexed.


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Re: High Quality Content And Adjusting With The Times
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 11:43:10 AM »
Images and video are not significant factors in whether or not Google deindexes, bans or slaps a site. The improvement in quality is for the purpose of ensuring the network remain vibrant and well indexed.

Yes, that I get - in this regard I suppose that a blog network situation is not the same as a one-off content driven site where one of the things we are trying to do is to increase visitor involvement.

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Re: High Quality Content And Adjusting With The Times
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 12:04:59 PM »
I'm not saying I'm not open to the other media improvements, if there is a good way to do it that is supported by XMLRPC. I'm all ears. :)

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Re: High Quality Content And Adjusting With The Times
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2012, 12:44:19 PM »
I'm not saying I'm not open to the other media improvements, if there is a good way to do it that is supported by XMLRPC. I'm all ears. :)

And that's the problem isn't it. Pretty much anything you might want to do (or that some members might want is, in the end, down to the webmasters on the receiving blogs. If THEY want to add video or pics then they can and maybe some do. But for you guys to do it...
Not really on.

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Re: High Quality Content And Adjusting With The Times
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2012, 12:48:03 PM »
Images and video are not significant factors in whether or not Google deindexes, bans or slaps a site. The improvement in quality is for the purpose of ensuring the network remain vibrant and well indexed.

Do you not agree that other forms of media would increase the quality, user engagement and or social signals of the posts...?  And I'm sure with your programming knowledge that you can make it happen.

And I would have to disagree that pics and videos DO play a role in whether Google deindexes, bans or slaps a site.. Here's why! If the pic and or video increases engagement (time on site, lower bounce rate, more page views), attracts links, social signals and provides to the quality of the posts the likely hood of the page getting deindexed go's down greatly.

And if video and or pic's don't play a significant role in whether google bans, slaps a site are your saying grammar does?..

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Re: High Quality Content And Adjusting With The Times
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2012, 02:28:50 PM »
I'm saying that if a human being looks at the page and sees badly spun garbage that they are more likely to poke around the site to see if that's the norm. If it is, then deindexing isn't far behind.

But if someone reviews a post and sees a well written piece of quality content, then they have little reason to investigate the rest of the site, and the blog is much more likely to remain fully indexed with no penalty.

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Re: High Quality Content And Adjusting With The Times
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2012, 12:15:38 AM »
If anyone reviews the site they can easily tell that it's just for links especially if that someone is from Google. However if the posts have videos, pictures and other forms of media along with well written content then there is even less of a chance that the page or the blog  will deindexed. 

Text alone is boring to humans. People like to see nice pictures, videos etc. to go along with well written text. I see no reason why video can't be added. Adding video and pictures increases on page optimization, increases the likely hood the visitor will stay on that page longer, increases the chances that page will garner links to it and increases the chances that the users will view other pages. All of that will send positive signals to Google that the page is legit and of higher quality. All I see are positives....