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Hi Skeeva,

I thought I would share my thoughts with everyone for what they are worth.  I have managed to get quite a few (about 18 or 19) #1 positions since October 2008.  Everyone is free to read my approach and use it however they see fit. Follow it, or discard it, or make suggestions/improvements - whatever.  I am not suggesting that what I do is by any means the ONLY way for posting to 1WL, but I just thought I would share what seems to have been working fairly well for me.  That being said, I will do my best to give you my process for each of your questions you have submitted.

1) What count do you use?
- Now I am using 100 per month (per campaign/article).  I used to use 250 each month, but after some testing actually got better results by using less.  Maybe 250 in 30 days is too many, too quickly.  I am still testing this out, but in the past 2 months have seen better progress in rankings using only 100 per month.  I would love to hear feedback from other members regarding this. 

2) How many links do you use per article? 
- At this time I am using 3 links per article.  Each link points to a different website.  I definitely utilize a lot of the spinning capabilities of the 1WL network, including the links.  I write 10 sentences that are spinnable.

This allows me to have a variety of text surrounding the link and anchor text.  I don't know how much difference this makes, but one day I was trying to track my results on Google.  I found that my exact sentence with my anchor text was appearing all over the place.  It occurred to me that this may be a bit of a footprint, so I began to take steps to minimize it.

I follow the 60%, 30%, 10% ratio for the anchor texts, which is why I write 10 different (unique) sentences - one sentence for each link.  The first six sentences will be for my primary keyword.  The next 3 sentences will be for the secondary keyword.  The last sentence will contain a variation of my primary keyword.  Generally I use the opposite form of plural/singular as my primary keyword (ie- if my primary keyword was "baby shower", then my variation would be "baby showers").  By supplying 10 different sentences I am confident that those sentences containing my links will not leave a traceable footprint.

Then, to top it off, I include a spinnable option of no link included by leaving a blank.  You can do this by using the pipe symbol ( that looks like this | ) and follow it with a blank.  This results in one of the possibilites of no link in that paragraph.  As a result, when the paragraph is posted to a blog, sometimes that paragraph will not contain a link.  So, sometimes my posts end up with 3 links, and sometimes less.  It all depends on the version that gets posted on the network. I don't want all of the links pointing to my websites to be 100% the same.  I want to create diversity.  The links pointing to my websites will be from a variety, but they won't all be from the exact SAME locations.

Do they go to the same site and same page?
- In each post I point most of the links to an inner page, but do point some to the home page.  Of the first six sentences containing links, I will point three to the home page, and three to the inner page.  Of the next 3 sentences I will point one to the home page, and two to the inner page.  And for the last sentence I will point it to the inner page.  The final result is a smattering of links pointing to a variety of pages, with a variety of anchor texts.

Here is a sample of how to format it and what it would look like.  I separated the sentences to make it easier to read:

{Unique sentence ONE <hyper link with anchor text 1 pointing to HOME page>.
|Unique sentence TWO <hyper link with anchor text 1 pointing to HOME page>.
|Unique sentence THREE <hyper link with anchor text 1 pointing to HOME page>.

|Unique sentence FOUR <hyper link with anchor text 1 pointing to INNER page>.
|Unique sentence FIVE <hyper link with anchor text 1 pointing to INNER page>.
|Unique sentence SIX <hyper link with anchor text 1 pointing to INNER page>.

|Unique sentence SEVEN <hyper link with anchor text 2 pointing to INNER page>.
|Unique sentence EIGHT <hyper link with anchor text 2 pointing to INNER page>.
|Unique sentence NINE <hyper link with anchor text 2 pointing to HOME page>.

|Unique sentence TEN <hyper link with anchor text 3 pointing to INNER page>.

| }

Here is what it would look like in the form actually submitted to the network:
{Unique sentence ONE <hyper link with anchor text 1 pointing to HOME page>. |Unique sentence TWO <hyper link with anchor text 1 pointing to HOME page>. |Unique sentence THREE <hyper link with anchor text 1 pointing to HOME page>. |Unique sentence FOUR <hyper link with anchor text 1 pointing to INNER page>. |Unique sentence FIVE <hyper link with anchor text 1 pointing to INNER page>. |Unique sentence SIX <hyper link with anchor text 1 pointing to INNER page>. |Unique sentence SEVEN <hyper link with anchor text 2 pointing to INNER page>. |Unique sentence EIGHT <hyper link with anchor text 2 pointing to INNER page>. |Unique sentence NINE <hyper link with anchor text 2 pointing to HOME page>. |Unique sentence TEN <hyper link with anchor text 3 pointing to INNER page>. | }

3) Do you spin?  If so, what do you do?  (spin paragraphs, individual words, titles, link text, etc.)
- Yes, I spin like crazy.  I figure that the more you spin, the more unique each posted version is, the better.  I create at least 3 versions of each sentence, and have at least 3 sentences in each paragraph.  This makes the paragraphs kind of long, but each version is sure to have a high percentage of unique content. I also include an option of blank in the last sentence of each paragraph.  This makes the number of paragraphs different from version to version.  Some versions will have three sentences and some will have four sentences.

I also spin the title as well.  I don't really want the exact same title posted all over the place.  My goal is to really have each post/version of my article to appear unique, like no other. 

I have already addressed the topic of spinning the anchor text.

4) Are you having success or not?
- I would have to say a resounding YES!  This network is worth its weight in gold in my opinion.  My best success story would be getting to #1 for 6 different keywords in about 2 weeks.  Now that is not typical, but it has happened to me.  Most of my results get me to the top within about 2-3 months, although I have a few projects that still haven't reached number 1 yet, but they seem to be climbing slowly and gradually.

I also put links to three different websites in each post.  I never include a link to the same website more than once in each post.  I want to spread out the links across different domains and IP's, so to use two links (or three links) pointing to the same website is not the best use in my opinion. I think it's better to spread the links around, than to try to "double-up" the links by including links pointing to the same website more than once in each post.

I would have credit a large part of my success to careful selection and analysis of the individual keywords.  Picking the wrong keywords will be unfruitful no matter how much time you spend spinning the articles.  I personally think that the tool that Jon created to analyze the competition is brilliant.  I used to manually perform the same thing this software does automatically.  It used to take me about 2 or 3 hours to do what this software does in less than 2 or 3 minutes, plus it is very accurate. 

If you haven't gotten it yet I highly recommend getting a copy yourself at http://www.WebCompAnalyzer.com 
I couldn't imagine trying to rank any keywords without using this tool.

Hope this helps.  If you have any questions, comments, suggestions, or other feedback, please feel free to contact me and/or post it here. 

Neil

Neil,

I admire your method as well as the clarity of your post.

Thanks for taking the time to share with us.

To my understanding, when you spin, the theoretical number of possible versions will obviously have many duplicates, but that number will depend on the duplicate filter used.

Once you are spinning the sentences with the anchor text, you have already made the duplicate text percentage down to an extent. If on top of that you are writing 3 versions for sentences then you have done much more than enough for 250 posts. After all this, using synonyms in sentences may be unnecessary. Unique combinations of adjacent sentences will do the trick.

It is widely believed that G uses duplicates in a string of x words as well as a certain percentage of duplicate text in a page as the barrier.

In either case we are nowhere near the possible good version number when we make even 250 posts.

For 100 spun posts that you use, even two versions of sentences should be more than enough.

You have been spending so much effort and doing testing on all this, I would suggest have a test along my suggestions. I haven't tested. But this seems logical. And if you find this true, you can save a substantial part of your time on this.


Regards
Shiv

Thanks, Skeeva.  Hope you (and others) find it to be useful.

Neil

This is a fantastic thread and the information here should be put in the getting started manual! Many people had no idea about built in article spinning so without this help I was completely lost... C'mon Jon, help the newbees out and send a pdf explaining this when people sign up for something.. Duplicate content hurts the network, people that dont know how to spinn are wasting articles and links.. If I wasn't sooo lazy i might have submitted 250 unique posts this month just to avoid the dupes...

Thanks for the help!

You might want to check out this thread: http://1waylinks.net/forum/index.php?topic=547.0

...especially the last part.   

If you want to crank this up even faster, use another of John's masterpieces - Instant Article Writer Pro.  This thing is so fast & concise, it's eerie!  I've only been spinning links & titles and never thought about entire sentences (Thanks Neil!).  But with IAWpro, I can go from scratch to post in 10-15 min.

I haven't seen this discussed.

I may mention it here.

We are using random spinning. So there would be statistical errors. The smaller the number of versions generated the more would be the statistical error. For example a coin tossed  up 2 times may turn up both heads or both tails, tossed up 10 times could give closer to 5-5 results and tossed up 100 times would more likely give 50-50 or 49-51 results.

In view of this if you keep the number of generated versions 10% more than the possibilities then you will obtain all the possible variations with a likelihood of up to 10% wastage.

If you look at it this way, then creating a huge number of possible versions by spinning like crazy is asking for a number of similar versions, a lot of wastage and that seems to be the experience.

I'd invite others to share their experience on this.

Regards
Shiv

You say you point the first 6 anchor text links to website1,
the other 3 to website2 and the last one to website3

Hi Mospreyo,

Actually that is NOT what I said.  All of the links point to the same website, but with 3 different anchor texts.  Since this is the case, there is no example of website1, website2, and website3 as you indicated in your question. The sentences that contain links are grouped into a series of 10 sentences, but they all point to the same website. 

Does this make sense?

Regardless of which version is randomly chosen, it will be pointing to the appropriate website.

Hope this helps.

Neil