Author Topic: My post was decilned?? (Read 1625 times)

krosso · « **on:** January 08, 2012, 05:02:57 AM »

Don't worry, no crying game here. I think the heightened quality standard is a good move.

However, I noticed that the title of the unapproval email I got from the 1waylinks system ironically has a spelling error in the Subject line.

Post Decilned.

Don't know if anyone else has noticed this? It's been this way for a while.

jpve76 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 15, 2012, 05:26:03 PM »

lol, looks like the Nazis don't hold themselves to their own high standard.

highpec · « **Reply #2 on:** January 15, 2012, 08:50:38 PM »

Ya I always get a kick out of that.
It's all a big game apparently.

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jpve76 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 15, 2012, 08:55:17 PM »

Yah, I've been having my posts deleted left, right, and centre here on this forum. Reminds me a little of Joseph Goebbels. Pathetic that Jon is trying to cover up the complaints instead of dealing with them in a mature manner. He needs to remember that his customers don't need him, but rather, he needs his customers.

Jonathan Leger · « **Reply #4 on:** January 15, 2012, 09:58:38 PM »

I'm not covering up anything. It's been hashed and rehashed. Continuing to allow these complaints about "bad reviewers" makes it look like there's some kind of wide spread problem. There isn't. As I continue to point out, 85% of posts are approved without problems. It's only a few users who don't seem to care about quality that complain about the high standards now required.

I have some sympathy for you because the network used to allow lower quality posts. Those days are over. If that's an issue for you, there are plenty of trashy networks out there that will not care at all about the quality of your posts. But then, they won't care when their blogs get deindexed and your sites lose their ranking, either.

Frankly I wouldn't mind losing the customers who continue to post and repost the same badly written junk. It would make the reviewers jobs easier, cut down on my expenses, and save me the headache of continuously coming to the forum to debate the importance of quality with people who seem like they couldn't care less.

I don't need that kind of customer. I'm happy to have the 85% who respect the importance of quality and follow the rules without complaning about the standards.

jdn605 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 17, 2012, 08:52:46 PM »

What I find Funny and kinda pathetic is that when this system first started I thought we was doing this for links and we don't really plan on people reading these articles.. Now all of a sudden the articles don't make sense or grammar problems etc.. Which IMO is crap! If the article is reasonable and a link is in the article then it should be fine. But I guess not!

If your going to debate that the blogs will get deindexed for not reading properly then that's a joke because it's not true... I try to make my articles reasonable and 90% of them do go through, but if something is wrong with grammar that's going overboard. Let's not forget what were after here.. LINKS!!

Jonathan Leger · « **Reply #6 on:** January 17, 2012, 08:55:21 PM »

That was fine pre-Panda. But now if you want long-term success from your links they better appear on high quality content. 1WL has to adjust with the times. If you don't adjust with the times you may as well be doing reciprocal linking still...

jdn605 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 17, 2012, 08:59:21 PM »

Please show me and example Jon where Panda has whacked a site because of Grammar.. I'm not seeing it! The only way Google knows if a page is high quality is still 90% links coming in, social signals and user engagement.. Not grammar! Which none of these blogs will ever have engagement or social signals because these are not our money sites and don't get treated like money sites.

Were after links here and this IMO is an over adjustment. Panda doesn't have nothing to do with grammar.. If so what about the thousands upon thousands of pages that are on these websites under the old quality rules?

But anyways I don't really care because 90% of my posts get approved but grammar shouldn't be an issue IMO.. If you want to show Google the page is high quality shoot links to the pages..

andrewwilson · « **Reply #8 on:** January 18, 2012, 12:51:59 AM »

Sites will not get hit for grammar, per se - at least not at the moment. But what can already happen is monitoring visitor behaviour.

So, a visitor hits a page, sees that the article is badly written, does not answer her question, is unattractive to look at she will click away. This is not a particularly new thing.

Increasingly SEs will not present material to searchers that has been rejected by other searchers. A couple of years ago that meant that webmasters started to look at decreasing bounce rates, increasing time spent on a page and then site and one of the beat ways, was and is, to provide content that people want to read.

One of the best indicators of material that people will read is grammar and syntax. I KNOW as a reviewer for my own sites that a badly written article will almost never have decent information. The people who provide content worth reading take care to ensure it reads well. So, whilst Google may not be grammar checking, it makes perfect sense for anyone interested in having content worth reading to ensure decent usage of the written word.

Let me ask you what purposes you think a link has.
Please let us know, when you say that you use other people's websites to host your content, what is a backlink for?

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jackeyforever · « **Reply #9 on:** January 18, 2012, 06:03:52 AM »

So, you think that re-writing each sentence 10 times, spinning a few words with synonyms, spinning at the sentence and paragraph level ( as suggested here many times before ) will make most of the 250 versions appealing to readers? Even if the grammar is correct?

I'm still waiting to get an answer on a question I posted on other threads, that got locked / deleted for being "uncomfortable"...:
Since you care about your customers, can you please instruct your reviews to take a SNAPSHOT of the phrase they don't like and send it in the email decline? I have 1800-2000 words in an article and it's a pain in the *ss to find what combination may be wrong.
Is it a bad request? This will help reduce our bitching around.

Jonathan Leger · « **Reply #10 on:** January 18, 2012, 08:21:50 AM »

Quote from: jdn605 on January 17, 2012, 08:59:21 PM

Please show me and example Jon where Panda has whacked a site because of Grammar.. I'm not seeing it! The only way Google knows if a page is high quality is still 90% links coming in, social signals and user engagement.. Not grammar! Which none of these blogs will ever have engagement or social signals because these are not our money sites and don't get treated like money sites.

Were after links here and this IMO is an over adjustment. Panda doesn't have nothing to do with grammar.. If so what about the thousands upon thousands of pages that are on these websites under the old quality rules?

But anyways I don't really care because 90% of my posts get approved but grammar shouldn't be an issue IMO.. If you want to show Google the page is high quality shoot links to the pages..

It's not that links don't get counted from pages with bad grammar. It's that Google is getting more and more aggressive with targeting link networks. That means we need to stay as high quality legit as possible.

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jj · « **Reply #11 on:** January 19, 2012, 01:10:48 AM »

Hi,

I'm all for the posts needing to be perfect for the network to be a bigger benefit. But it's annoying when I get an article declined because I've used affect instead of effect, and then I go to my own blogs and see articles that are blatantly auto spun and have words in them that you just wouldn't use, and some of the sentences don't make much sense.

Jonathan Leger · « **Reply #12 on:** January 19, 2012, 04:13:08 AM »

PM me some urls. That kind of content should not be getting approved.

winston · « **Reply #13 on:** January 19, 2012, 04:39:58 AM »

Thanks Jon for being stricter with what gets let in. Even if it's not perfect and sometimes there isn't consistency in what gets accepted and what doesn't (and that happens because reviewing spin content is HARD), it's a step in the right direction.

The level of garbage that was getting through recently was actually getting scary. Some posts had keywords (with links) inserted in random places into unrelated, very poorly spun articles.

And I'm saying this although personally I've had to rework bits of a couple of my own articles that previously had been accepted and now got declined for review. New rules sometimes are painful, but in this case I believe they are necessary for safety. Personally I would say there should be more in-depth rules, i.e. requiring a proportion of non-commercial anchor text to be used in blog posts as well as rules limiting the number of certain types of domain names in the network (especially long sub-domains, multi-hyphenated domain names, over-using .info domain names, etc.). A link network that is "easy" to use but also is easy to spot by the big G is worthless.

jj · « **Reply #14 on:** January 19, 2012, 06:56:31 AM »

Hi Jon,

PM has been sent.

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