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« on: May 03, 2012, 01:41:45 PM »
Hello Jon & Members,

Just ran several spun articles using WPRobot's Article Builder module with the following settings:
Super Spun
800 word count

After checking content for uniqueness with copyscape, most of them were well over 30% matches. Quite a few were 99% and even 100% matching in the results from copyscape's returns.

Have you got a fix for this? Hope so.
Thx,
-Dan

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Re: 100% matches in copyscape results...
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2012, 04:13:13 PM »
Sounds like they've got an issue in the API parameters they're passing. There's no way you're getting the Super Spun content back and getting those kinds of Copyscape matches.

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« Last Edit: May 03, 2012, 05:57:25 PM by Jonathan Leger »

Re: 100% matches in copyscape results...
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2012, 11:43:59 AM »
It is impossible that you get 100% duplication.

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Re: 100% matches in copyscape results...
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2012, 09:04:17 AM »
Hi Jon!
I'm having almost the same issue, i generate a super spun article, not via API, and check it in grammarly and the best what i got was 40% unique.
I'm thinking about asking for a refund, after the new google update 40% unique article is good for nothing.
Thanks

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Re: 100% matches in copyscape results...
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2012, 09:24:56 AM »
Hi Jon!
I'm having almost the same issue, i generate a super spun article, not via API, and check it in grammarly and the best what i got was 40% unique.
I'm thinking about asking for a refund, after the new google update 40% unique article is good for nothing.
Thanks

Do you mean that 60% of the content of a specific article is available in various places on the innerwebs? That is to be expected given the way in which AB works. What you should find is that, using Copyscape as the measuring tool, no more than 25% of any article will be duplicated in any other single instance and usually it is much less.

Oh, a small but vital point of correction. There is NO PROBLEM in having duplicated content across different websites. Do not fall for the rubbish that people will sh!t to sell you will try to scare you with. There is no duplicate content penalty applied to cross domain duplication, there can be issues with intra-domain duplication, which is why we use no follow and no index on some classes of content within WordPress and other CMSs

It looks like we now have a whole new raft of scare solutions for the unaware being pedaled. If you want to understand a little about what the Penguin update was aiming at there are many good posts on this forum looking at the issue - HINT: it isn't duplicate content. ;)

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Re: 100% matches in copyscape results...
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2012, 09:07:25 AM »
Ok, that may be true, but they still need a proofreading for grammar mistakes. There was a Senuke video, and they mention that your articles should get at least 50/100 at grammarly. I checked a few and they only get 35-45, maybe 47-48 if you are lucky enough.

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Re: 100% matches in copyscape results...
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2012, 01:20:50 PM »
OK, gergo, we are sorted. The articles are NOT as you claimed. They ARE unique and they are NOT 60% duplicated in any other article.

Checking for grammar and syntax is a very different thing than checking for degree of difference, yes?

By the way, do not rely upon software to do your proofreading, you WILL fail. Even good grammar checkers are less good than a half way literate person and the material from AB is much better than the average native English speakers will be writing - not perfect but fine enough.

I'd lay odds that if you go by the guidance of a grammar checker as proofreader that the output document will be less good than the input document.

In summary, ask yourself this. Can you buy 146,000 unique articles of the same quality as the ArticleBuilder ones  for the same price as you paid for ArticleBuilder? IIRC you got a special offer through SENuke that means that you paid less than 1 US cent per article. For content that you now agree was unique.

Please show me where you go to buy such content. I want to get in on this! If you use SENuke X you'd be badly advised to NOT be using AB for as long as it is available. :)

Re: 100% matches in copyscape results...
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2012, 07:46:43 PM »
It is impossible that you get 100% duplication.

You apparently know so much more than most that you can make this claim essentially labeling me disingenuous. However, before you take your next shot at someone, show your credentials. Then maybe we might heed your remark.

Re: 100% matches in copyscape results...
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2012, 07:51:31 PM »
Sounds like they've got an issue in the API parameters they're passing. There's no way you're getting the Super Spun content back and getting those kinds of Copyscape matches.

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Hello Jon,
I have been communicating directly with Thomas Hofter (not sure but I think he may be the developer of the product WPRobot). Thomas has investigated my issue from his end and this was his last message to me...

"Hi Dan,

I just had a look and can now confirm that the variables are also
correctly passed to Articlebuilder on your site. If AB does not return
content according to them the problem would be on their side. Below is
the output of the data array that gets passed to articlebuilder (from
a sample campaign I created).

Array ( [session] => 4fa9a94d5b16c [format] => php [action] =>
buildArticle [apikey] => [category] => forex [subtopics] =>
[wordcount] => 600 [superspun] => 1 )

Regards,
Thomas"  [END OF QUOTE............]

If you think it helpful, I would be willing to send you screen shots of my results from Copyscape along with my program settings.

Would you look further into this please?

Thank you,
-Dan
« Last Edit: May 08, 2012, 07:56:19 PM by DanoPano »

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Re: 100% matches in copyscape results...
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2012, 07:55:15 PM »
Paste an example article that you're getting back here.

Re: 100% matches in copyscape results...
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2012, 07:58:26 PM »
Paste an example article that you're getting back here.

OK...give me a bit of time to do just that.
Thank you,
-Dan

Re: 100% matches in copyscape results...
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2012, 08:23:19 PM »
Hello Jonathan,

Here are my Article Builder settings within WPRobot:

ARTICLE BUILDER OPTIONS
Article Builder Username:    ?
Article Builder Password:   
SuperSpun Content:    Yes
Article Length:   800

ARTICLE OPTIONS
Article Source:    Ezinearticles.com; Goarticles.com; Ezinemark.com
Pages:    Split long articles into several pages after every 10,000 characters.
Strip All Links from...    Article Body    "No"
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Here is a newly submitted article to Copyscape using the above settings entered into WPRobot's ArticleBuilder module:

The comparison below was created by Copyscape, which checked 409 words of pasted text.

The page below has 404 words matching 99% of the text, as highlighted by Copyscape:

http://arealopportunity.net/

Here is the actual article the text was compared to:

‘Internet marketing’ is a recent concept initiated worldwide. But how many of us understand what the phrase actually entails? What factors should be considered before opting for any Internet Marketing Company? Let this be a quick guide for all your queries.br>The Internet provides a global platform to exhibit your business where millions of users across the world can connect with you. But why should a user want to access your site or connect with you? How can a user distinguish you from your competitors? Today in addition to well-organized content, you need some sort of marketing to promote your business through which your customers can distinguish you from your competitors. At this juncture you require an Internet marketing service for your website. The United States is the focal point of the latest technological development in the world and Maryland is one of the key states. If you are in Maryland, your website should offer something really exceptional so that you stand out from your competitors in terms of Internet Marketing of your products and services.Internet Marketing is a way to promote your business on the Internet .The main objective of Internet marketing is to convey a company’s specifications and specializations to customers. A good IM company should conduct extensive research to provide desirable user content to existing and potential clients for selling goods, services and to advertise the benefits of the business.InternetMarketing is a consistently evolving process nowadays as it may include website promotion, SEO, social media marketing, e-mail marketing, PPC campaign Management, Link Building, Web Marketing Services and many more services to advertise your product and services in order to attract more customers. A user’s mind is influenced to some extent whenever he regularly comes across an advertisement. Repetition of visual ads has been proven to create a positive impact and encourage Internet searchers to visit the source. A good Web Marketing company will execute a well-organized IM strategy customized to each company’s needs. Before selecting any Internet Service Company ensure that the company has set standards for premium quality services. An Internet marketing company should have the necessary technical expertise and experience and a proven track record. Quality services should be provided at reasonable costs. Overall, Internet Marketing is a win – win situation for both the client and the service. So Internet marketing can bring targeted customers, which can be a key factor to financial success with your online business.
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Copyscape returned 19 hits on this article...

Hit #1...Here is the actual snippet of the above article on the results page of Copyscape:

         
A Real Opportunity
... What factors should be considered before opting for any Internet Marketing Company? Let this be a ... all your queries.br>The Internet provides a global platform to exhibit your business where millions ... How can a user distinguish you from your competitors? ... Today in ... to well-organized content, you need some sort of marketing to promote your business through which ... At this juncture you require an Internet marketing service for your ... The United States is the focal point of the latest technological development in the world ... If you are in Maryland, your website should offer something really exceptional so that you stand out ... is a way to promote your business on the Internet .The main objective of Internet marketing is to ... A good IM company should conduct ... research to provide desirable user content to existing and potential clients for selling goods ... consistently evolving process nowadays as ... may include website promotion, SEO, social media marketing, e-mail marketing, PPC campaign Management, Link ... to some extent whenever he regularly comes across an advertisement. Repetition of visual ads has been ... proven to create a positive impact and encourage Internet ... A good Web Marketing company will execute a well-organized IM strategy customized to each company ... ... selecting any Internet Service Company ensure that the company has set standards for premium quality ... An Internet marketing company should have the necessary technical expertise and experience and a ... Quality services should be provided at reasonable costs. Overall, Internet Marketing is a win – win situation ... Internet marketing can bring targeted customers, which can be a key factor to financial success ...
http://arealopportunity.net/

Hope this helps you isolate the issue.
Thx,
-Dan

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Re: 100% matches in copyscape results...
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2012, 08:41:10 PM »
That content didn't come from Article Builder. It looks like from your settings it's coming from an article directory.

Re: 100% matches in copyscape results...
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2012, 08:45:49 PM »
Talk about silly mistakes...I feel like a dunce! Please accept my apologies for taking up your time on this matter.

Thank you,
-Dan

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Re: 100% matches in copyscape results...
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2012, 08:47:13 PM »
No worries Dan. If I had a dime for every silly mistake I've made I'd be retired in Tahiti. :D