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SEO Guide from zero
« on: December 29, 2011, 06:59:57 AM »
Hi Jon,

I know many people told it to you, but I would like also to say a big thank you for the products, the forum and all the help you are providing to people doing SEO. Special thanks for the TBS 3.4 update where I got the custom the thesaurus option! :)

I'm using your products and willing to use more of them, but I'm getting a bit lost. I have some sites where I was able to reach top 5 ranking in google withing 2-3 months and I feel how beneficial is it!

My problem is that I couldn't find a description about the process you would follow in case of building a niche site for 3-5 keywords. I have read several books and other printout about backlinking strategy or other parts of the SEO, but I think that you are the King of SEO for many of us and it would be really useful if you could give a description about steps you recommend. For sure I'm not expecting you to give a magic button what we need to push and get on the 1st rank, but I would like to hear how you would build a niche site. I'm very interested about the followings:
- What tools to user (especially yours!)?
- How many pages (content ) to write as a start and what should be the scheduling?
- When to start link building and what methods to user (1waylinks.net / 3waylinks.net / ?)?
- How many links to build in a month? or in 3 months of time?
- What to expect? For example, if you don't get to the first page (for any reason) then build more content? double the volume of the content or what?
- What would be the average level of site extension (link building / new content) to keep the good ranking? I know  that if somebody is doing harder then I might loose, but what would be the average?
- What not to do?
- What to expect during the process? E.g.: sometimes drop in ranking.

I know it's a lot of questions and people might read about these things at other places as well, but I'm interested how you would do and what tools what content / link volumes you would try.

I'm asking this because using 1waylinks and 3waylinks systems and sometimes I'm not sure if I'm too agressive or I'm just wasting time because I don't do enough work so I never get to the top 3 positions.

Sorry if you have such description and I just missed it. I have tried to look after it, but couldn't find.

Thank you again for your help!
Peter

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Re: SEO Guide from zero
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2011, 09:22:27 AM »
Quote from: schmip on Today at 08:59:57<blockquote>I know it's a lot of questions and people might read about these things at other places as well, but I'm interested how you would do and what tools what content / link volumes you would try.</blockquote>

2nd this post!

It sure is a lot of questions, but I would also like to have them answered!! Each and everyone of them.

I have read so many different things about this that I am totally confused.

And many of the answers I have read are totally bogus, so some of you GU-RU's out there please take the time to post an answer to Scmip's question, and I will make out like I had been smart enough to ask it!! ;)

Thanks to any of you who take the time to help,

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Re: SEO Guide from zero
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2011, 11:26:57 AM »
http://geekfreeseo.com/

I'd start by reading that.

Jon


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Re: SEO Guide from zero
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2011, 01:45:44 PM »
Quote from: Jonathan Leger on Today at 13:26:57
http://geekfreeseo.com/
I'd start by reading that. Jon



Thanks Jon for the refresher tip.

I have read it several times and keep a copy on my desktop to be able to
find it quickly. But, I actually do not remember seeing answers to all of the
questions listed below. So I best go read it again!

Actually I was one of the lucky ones who first obtained it and was able to
have my links put into it. :) Still have a blog up with it on the front page,
and must have given away several hundred copies by now.

It has been a great resource for me personally, and thru today the only
piece of content of it's type that did not bore me to death!

HJ
« Last Edit: December 29, 2011, 01:47:27 PM by HoneyJo »
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Re: SEO Guide from zero
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2011, 10:34:06 PM »
http://geekfreeseo.com/

I'd start by reading that.

Jon

I'll also start reading it! I'll come back if any questions remains open :)

Thank you!
Peter

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Re: SEO Guide from zero
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2012, 08:36:08 AM »
http://geekfreeseo.com/

I'd start by reading that.

Jon

Hi Jon,

At first Happy New Year to You! :) Your tools started me on a way of new lifestyle and I hope this will be the year when I get really the results.

So I just finished reading your ebook and tried to summarize what I have open in my mind.

- First of all I did really like the idea of "online commercial intention". I did never think this way of about profitable keywords (for adsense sites). But my problem is that actually this tool changed and it seems to me that it's changed to and adwords keyword tool type of function and I don't see commercial intention information on the result. Can you help with it or recommend an other tool?

- I have checked Webcomp analyst earlier and liked the idea, but it's not available for sale by now. Do you have a replacement tool or a tool that can bulk test keywords? For example to see difficulty info about 100 keywords.

- Yahoo site explorer died about 1-2 months ago. Do you know any other replacement for this what you would recommend?

- How many pages of content would you recommend to write for a site described in your book and how many new content per month?

- Should I start link building right after the site is built? Should I start 1waylinks and 3waylinks parallel?

- You mentioned 6-12 links a day in your book. So if I put 3 links to a post then should I build max 4 posts per day by using 1waylinks and don't use 3waylinks parallel?

- What to expect? For example, if you don't get to the first page (for any reason) then build more content? double the volume of the content or what?

- What would be the average level of site extension (link building / new content) to keep the good ranking? I know  that if somebody is doing harder then I might loose, but what would be the average?

- What to expect during the process? E.g.: sometimes drop in ranking.

- What would be the average time for a keyword difficulty described in your book? I'm not asking exact figure, just an idea if it's about 1-2 months or 3-5 months for top ranking.

I feel that I reached good results with your tools and was able to start building sites and what I miss in general is the way how the next 1-3 month goes after the sites is built.

I know that I had a lot of questions and hope you can help me with these!

Thank you again!
Peter

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Re: SEO Guide from zero
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2012, 03:21:47 AM »
Hi Jon and All,

Could somebody help me with my questions?

Thank you!
Peter

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Re: SEO Guide from zero
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2012, 06:29:59 AM »
Be fair! Your questions are numerous and require a deal of time to work through and answer.
There are people and businesses that offer training that you can go to but they tend to cost money.

You will likely find that the answers to some of your questions become obvious when you take action. Others can be answered by using the famous search tool called Google.

In no particular order though:
https://www.google.com/search?q=replacement+for+yahoo+site+explorer&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

https://www.google.com/search?q=bulk+checking+keywords&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22online+commercial+intention%22+keywords&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

https://www.google.com/search?q=when+should+I+start+backlinking&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Remember there is no such thing as 'average'. There is ONLY your case and your context. So, if you have learned how to do stuff correctly (and it ain't hard - just build good quality content and lots of good quality backlinks) then all you will EVER need to do is to continue doing what you are doing.

There are no shortcuts. All you do is design your business, implement the design, improve the implementation based upon feedback and keep on doing it.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2012, 06:40:47 AM by andrewwilson »

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Re: SEO Guide from zero
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2012, 08:53:45 AM »
Remember there is no such thing as 'average'. There is ONLY your case and your context. So, if you have learned how to do stuff correctly (and it ain't hard - just build good quality content and lots of good quality backlinks) then all you will EVER need to do is to continue doing what you are doing.There are no shortcuts. All you do is design your business, implement the design, improve the implementation based upon feedback and keep on doing it.

Take Andrew's advice, and review the links he's provided you.  Hey may not realize it, but he's already helped me quite a bit.  The answers you are seeking need to be learned. 

Learning, implementing and then putting your practices into action are important.  If you feel like you need help or an outline to put you on the right direction, by all means, feel free to buy a course from someone on this board, but don't spend too much money on it. 

Learn each and every day.  Implement what you have learned.  Act upon your knowledge.  Add to or improve your site/ sites each day.
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Re: SEO Guide from zero
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2012, 02:24:59 AM »
Remember there is no such thing as 'average'. There is ONLY your case and your context. So, if you have learned how to do stuff correctly (and it ain't hard - just build good quality content and lots of good quality backlinks) then all you will EVER need to do is to continue doing what you are doing.

There are no shortcuts. All you do is design your business, implement the design, improve the implementation based upon feedback and keep on doing it.


At first thank you for answering.

Thank you for the search ideas from google. I feel that you think about me not thinking and just asking.
Believe me, I have been searching for several tools on the net and I don't want others to do this task for me, but I would like to hear the "rules" and tools from some kinds of expert. Also would be open to pay somebody, but as I'm just being a beginner, I don't know who to trust, so if I can find somebody here then I would be happy to talk private about their offerings, but only if I have proof that he/she is really adding value.

I'm not looking for average numbers, but as there are no numbers from experts I don't know how many links / what type of links are good per day/month. This is only because I don't want any of my sites in the sandbox.

I have read Jon's book and there were some information out of date and this is why I asked back.  I asked Jon only because there are many people talking about the great experience and great results, but sometimes you don't really believe them, because there is no proof behind and I believe everybody on this forum trusts Jon enough to believe his rules.


Thank you,
Peter

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Re: SEO Guide from zero
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2012, 02:27:54 AM »
Take Andrew's advice, and review the links he's provided you.  Hey may not realize it, but he's already helped me quite a bit.  The answers you are seeking need to be learned. 

Learning, implementing and then putting your practices into action are important.  If you feel like you need help or an outline to put you on the right direction, by all means, feel free to buy a course from someone on this board, but don't spend too much money on it. 

Learn each and every day.  Implement what you have learned.  Act upon your knowledge.  Add to or improve your site/ sites each day.

Thank you as well! I will try to do it myself and learn, but hope won't make big mistaked and lose my sites as well as my trust in the 'system'.

Thank you!
Peter

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Re: SEO Guide from zero
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2012, 08:30:57 AM »
The man (or woman) who never made a mistake never made anything! Mistakes are some of the fastest ways we learn and some of our most valuable lessons! Sometimes mistakes can be fatal, which is why we teach people how to drive, instead of letting them learn by trial and error. Fortunately, mistakes on the information super highway are seldom fatal, though they may be painful.  :o  ;D

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Re: SEO Guide from zero
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2012, 08:54:34 AM »
The man (or woman) who never made a mistake never made anything! Mistakes are some of the fastest ways we learn and some of our most valuable lessons! Sometimes mistakes can be fatal, which is why we teach people how to drive, instead of letting them learn by trial and error. Fortunately, mistakes on the information super highway are seldom fatal, though they may be painful.  :o  ;D

Not me Meg! I have never made A mistake in my life! ???
That is I have never made A mistake, they come in pairs repeatedly!

Most of the mistakes I have made on the internet came from taking
the advice of marketer's or Gu-Ru's that knew no more than I did.
And by buying their junk programs, that were either to complicated,
did not work, or did not help me in any way!

Once I found one (Jon) that told the truth I have never spent a dime
on SEO, got everything I know here on the forum.

Simply put, using the 'KISS' method and doing my 1,2,3's.

BTW: I still do not know how I got ranked so high, all I have ever seen
in my stats is your site, Jon, Jon's blog, and the forum members...
So this can't be a bad place to learn.
http://screencast.com/t/7yFv98sRi2uq That's me!! #1 today!

Also, to 'andrewwilson' that is one good list that you put up for the
forum... Thank you I appreciate it!

HoneyJo
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Re: SEO Guide from zero
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2012, 09:19:46 AM »
Most things to do with Google and other SE's have no proof and even those who think they have it usually do not.

So, in the end it is back to basics.

Communicating with our audience.
So it is:
Create good content.
Build backlinks (preferably by getting others to do it)

And repeating.

All you have to do is learn how to do it. Best way to do that is to, well..., do it.

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Re: SEO Guide from zero
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2012, 10:04:46 AM »
Not me Meg! I have never made A mistake in my life! 
That is I have never made A mistake, they come in pairs repeatedly!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!