Author Topic: Getting more advertisers (Read 1579 times)

harry · « **on:** June 24, 2010, 06:12:58 AM »

Hi,
I am new to this forum, so first of all I like to say hello to everyone.

I think this system is great, I am a writer and I got some links, and I got paid last month.

What the system is missing is advertisers. As soon as some links are offered they are gone in minutes, maybe even seconds.

I think a good way to get more advertisers is to make the links they are getting more valuable. One way to do so is to only use article sites with a decent page rank, which Cash4Links is already doing. Another way is to place links to these articles.

It is always a good idea, once you have published an article, to promote this article. Place links to it from blogs, Squidoo, social bookmarking sites, your website, etc. That way the article gets more important, might even get a pr, and so the link in it to your website gets more valuable as well, as does the link for the advertiser.

Since it is in all our (writers and advertisers) interest that Cash4Links becomes a success, I have a suggestion. Why stop at "Earn Money By Helping Yourself". Why not go a bit further and make it "Earn Money By Helping Each Other".

It is just an idea, I do not know how this will work out, but I believe that making the links that advertisers are getting more valuable, is the key in getting more advertisers.

I have a blog about music, movies and games (pr2) and a blog about guitar lessons (pr2). If I publish a new blogpost they are usually straight away indexed by Google.

Anyone who has articles published about these subjects: music, movies, games or guitars can send me the urls. of these articles and I will link to them from one of my blogs. The only condition is of course it should be articles with a link from a Cash4Links advertiser.

The whole idea behind this is of course that more Cash4Links members are going to do this, linking to other writers articles from blogs, social bookmarking sites, Squidoo, etc.

Harry

HoneyJo · « **Reply #1 on:** June 24, 2010, 07:28:38 AM »

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It is always a good idea, once you have published an article, to promote this article. Place links to it from blogs, Squidoo, social bookmarking sites, your website, etc. That way the article gets more important, might even get a pr, and so the link in it to your website gets more valuable as well, as does the link for the advertiser.
Since it is in all our (writers and advertisers) interest that Cash4Links becomes a success, I have a suggestion. Why stop at "Earn Money By Helping Yourself". Why not go a bit further and make it "Earn Money By Helping Each Other".
It is just an idea, I do not know how this will work out, but I believe that making the links that advertisers are getting more valuable, is the key in getting more advertisers.
I have a blog about music, movies and games (pr2) and a blog about guitar lessons (pr2). If I publish a new blogpost they are usually straight away indexed by Google.
Anyone who has articles published about these subjects: music, movies, games or guitars can send me the urls. of these articles and I will link to them from one of my blogs. The only condition is of course it should be articles with a link from a Cash4Links advertiser.

Harry,

What wonderful idea's you have here, I am a writer and feel strongly about the comments you have above.

We all should be doing as you suggest.

Joyce

leona · « **Reply #2 on:** June 24, 2010, 05:45:27 PM »

Quote from: harry on June 24, 2010, 06:12:58 AM

Hi,

It is always a good idea, once you have published an article, to promote this article. Place links to it from blogs, Squidoo, social bookmarking sites, your website, etc. That way the article gets more important, might even get a pr, and so the link in it to your website gets more valuable as well, as does the link for the advertiser.

Since it is in all our (writers and advertisers) interest that Cash4Links becomes a success, I have a suggestion. Why stop at "Earn Money By Helping Yourself". Why not go a bit further and make it "Earn Money By Helping Each Other".

It is just an idea, I do not know how this will work out, but I believe that making the links that advertisers are getting more valuable, is the key in getting more advertisers.

I have a blog about music, movies and games (pr2) and a blog about guitar lessons (pr2). If I publish a new blogpost they are usually straight away indexed by Google.

Anyone who has articles published about these subjects: music, movies, games or guitars can send me the urls. of these articles and I will link to them from one of my blogs. The only condition is of course it should be articles with a link from a Cash4Links advertiser.

The whole idea behind this is of course that more Cash4Links members are going to do this, linking to other writers articles from blogs, social bookmarking sites, Squidoo, etc.

Harry

Harry
This idea is one well used by most internet marketers - it makes their site more for their readers, with links to more content on your chosen niche.
Check out the forums here mywaylinks; 1waylinks; 3waylinks.
Leona

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Tradeview · « **Reply #3 on:** June 25, 2010, 05:18:17 PM »

Good suggestion Harry,

What I'm doing is publishing articles, as I can, with links in them that I have already been paid for previously.. or at leasted credited for in my account. I believe in "going the extra mile" in everything I do and I know if advertisers see real benefits in this system everyone here stands to gain. So if you are an advertiser, keep this in mind: you'll get a bigger bang for your dollar here then anywhere else!

SunGlynis · « **Reply #4 on:** June 25, 2010, 07:02:31 PM »

As someone trying to use Cash4Links as an advertiser, I'd love to see Harry's ideas and attitude shared by more of the link submitters. I'd also love it if the system somehow nurtured such an attitude.

leona · « **Reply #5 on:** June 26, 2010, 05:43:08 AM »

Quote from: SunGlynis on June 25, 2010, 07:02:31 PM

As someone trying to use Cash4Links as an advertiser, I'd love to see Harry's ideas and attitude shared by more of the link submitters. I'd also love it if the system somehow nurtured such an attitude.

As someone who does some internet marketing, I find the idea of adding links to relative sites from my blog a profitable one for all. We suggest relative sites to our readers, which makes them come back for more. I generally ensure the link opens in a new window, so as to not lose my audience.

C4L evolving to a relative article, relative link system sounds like what is wanted by both advertisers and some writers. Perhaps it should be looked into more. I would assume it would be at an additional cost for the advertiser - in essence, hiring a VA.

Leona

Tradeview · « **Reply #6 on:** June 26, 2010, 04:38:22 PM »

Quote from: leona on June 26, 2010, 05:43:08 AM

Quote from: SunGlynis on June 25, 2010, 07:02:31 PM
As someone trying to use Cash4Links as an advertiser, I'd love to see Harry's ideas and attitude shared by more of the link submitters. I'd also love it if the system somehow nurtured such an attitude.

As someone who does some internet marketing, I find the idea of adding links to relative sites from my blog a profitable one for all. We suggest relative sites to our readers, which makes them come back for more. I generally ensure the link opens in a new window, so as to not lose my audience.

C4L evolving to a relative article, relative link system sounds like what is wanted by both advertisers and some writers. Perhaps it should be looked into more. I would assume it would be at an additional cost for the advertiser - in essence, hiring a VA.

Leona

There wouldn't be anything unique in that. Advertisers already have access to these types of services.. and very good ones at that!

What would be unique is a system of linking the articles together with each author sharing in the pie: Three articles, published by three authors, on three different directories, willing to put a link to the advertiser and to each other's article: Advertiser's cost $15.

Practical? Dunno.. but unique.

harry · « **Reply #7 on:** July 02, 2010, 02:15:45 AM »

Hello again.

I am a bit disappointed with the reactions I got.

I think we must realize most of the links are for Jon's sites, he started this site and he has put a lot of his money into it. I do not think he will keep on doing this, although I could be wrong.

For me the key to get more advertisers, is to give them more value for money, and, that is the beauty of this system, at the same time giving more value to YOUR articles with links to YOUR sites.

Putting links to your own articles, from blogs, lenses, hubs, social bookmark sites, etc. is all very well, but loads of people are doing this, and the SE are well aware of this. What gives REALLY value to your article is, if OTHER people link to your article.

The best way to do so is to write brilliant articles with excellent value. Webmasters just want to show it to their readers so they link to it. Of course if you become an expert in your field, write articles that are linked to by other webmasters because they consider you an expert, you probably won't bother trying to get a few dollars from C4L

We, members of C4L, have an excellent opportunity to promote our articles, and if we do it right this might get advertisers interested

We should be linking to each other articles.

I will make a start:
Anybody with articles that have C4L links can contact me and I probably (depending on how many reactions I get) place a link some were to that article.

In the mean time I keep on doing what I am doing, promoting my sites. One of the things I do is to submit articles to article sites, lots of article sites, not only sites that are approved by C4L. I have decided that I leave the C4L links that I added to some articles, in place, so giving more value to those advertisers.

Tradeview · « **Reply #8 on:** July 02, 2010, 02:38:24 PM »

Quote from: harry on July 02, 2010, 02:15:45 AM

Hello again.

I am a bit disappointed with the reactions I got.

I think we must realize most of the links are for Jon's sites, he started this site and he has put a lot of his money into it. I do not think he will keep on doing this, although I could be wrong.

For me the key to get more advertisers, is to give them more value for money, and, that is the beauty of this system, at the same time giving more value to YOUR articles with links to YOUR sites.

Putting links to your own articles, from blogs, lenses, hubs, social bookmark sites, etc. is all very well, but loads of people are doing this, and the SE are well aware of this. What gives REALLY value to your article is, if OTHER people link to your article.

The best way to do so is to write brilliant articles with excellent value. Webmasters just want to show it to their readers so they link to it. Of course if you become an expert in your field, write articles that are linked to by other webmasters because they consider you an expert, you probably won't bother trying to get a few dollars from C4L

We, members of C4L, have an excellent opportunity to promote our articles, and if we do it right this might get advertisers interested

We should be linking to each other articles.

I will make a start:
Anybody with articles that have C4L links can contact me and I probably (depending on how many reactions I get) place a link some were to that article.

In the mean time I keep on doing what I am doing, promoting my sites. One of the things I do is to submit articles to article sites, lots of article sites, not only sites that are approved by C4L. I have decided that I leave the C4L links that I added to some articles, in place, so giving more value to those advertisers.

A little known "secret" .. evidently.. is that it does no good to "spam" the article directories. They don't like it and Google and other SE don't appreciate it either. They will automatically select one copy of your article and if it's good enough push it to the top. They won't however penalize your many submissions, they just ignore them. So it is a waste of time to submit your article to "many directories" .. DON'T DO IT.

I got that info from a very well known, and respected, Article Directory owner who spends his time studying the entire Article Directory field.

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harry · « **Reply #9 on:** July 04, 2010, 12:52:17 PM »

Quote from: Tradeview on July 02, 2010, 02:38:24 PM

A little known "secret" .. evidently.. is that it does no good to "spam" the article directories. They don't like it and Google and other SE don't appreciate it either. They will automatically select one copy of your article and if it's good enough push it to the top. They won't however penalize your many submissions, they just ignore them. So it is a waste of time to submit your article to "many directories" .. DON'T DO IT.

I got that info from a very well known, and respected, Article Directory owner who spends his time studying the entire Article Directory field.

I totally disagree.
For example do a search for "Building a 16ft Grand Banks Dory" an article I wrote long time ago. You will find this article lots and lots of times on different article directories, Google is clearly NOT ignoring them. I can give you lots more article titles with the same results, you will find those articles over and over again.

Article directories give other webmasters the rights to republish their articles, provided they do not change the article and leave the links, including the link to the article directory, in place. That way some article directories get a lot of back links.
These back links come from articles being republished over and over again.

If you write articles I presume you want people to read them. The more places you publish your article, the more people will see/read it, and maybe click the link to your site, because they got interested in what ever you are writing about.

HoneyJo · « **Reply #10 on:** July 04, 2010, 01:14:26 PM »

Harry & Tradeview

I know little about SEO, but I do know that there are numerous
blogs on the net 'RIGHT NOW' that have all or parts of my articles
on the front page of their sites.

And each of the articles, are articles that were written for C4L.

So guys, tell me what this means SEO wise?? Really tell me!

Joyce (honeyjo)

leona · « **Reply #11 on:** July 05, 2010, 08:44:20 AM »

Quote from: harry on July 04, 2010, 12:52:17 PM

Quote from: Tradeview on July 02, 2010, 02:38:24 PM
A little known "secret" .. evidently.. is that it does no good to "spam" the article directories. They don't like it and Google and other SE don't appreciate it either. They will automatically select one copy of your article and if it's good enough push it to the top. They won't however penalize your many submissions, they just ignore them. So it is a waste of time to submit your article to "many directories" .. DON'T DO IT.

I got that info from a very well known, and respected, Article Directory owner who spends his time studying the entire Article Directory field.

I totally disagree.
For example do a search for "Building a 16ft Grand Banks Dory" an article I wrote long time ago. You will find this article lots and lots of times on different article directories, Google is clearly NOT ignoring them. I can give you lots more article titles with the same results, you will find those articles over and over again.

Article directories give other webmasters the rights to republish their articles, provided they do not change the article and leave the links, including the link to the article directory, in place. That way some article directories get a lot of back links.
These back links come from articles being republished over and over again.

If you write articles I presume you want people to read them. The more places you publish your article, the more people will see/read it, and maybe click the link to your site, because they got interested in what ever you are writing about.

I do agree, the more articles you write, to different directories, the better chance you have of getting your backlinks published all over the net.
Perhaps the article directory site owners that tradeview talked with were misunderstood? There seems to be enough proof that flooding the article directories with your content, good content, keyword rich is the way to go.
Leona

Leona

harry · « **Reply #12 on:** July 05, 2010, 09:18:57 AM »

Quote from: leona on July 05, 2010, 08:44:20 AM

Perhaps the article directory site owners that tradeview talked with were misunderstood?

Look at it this way:
It is NOT in the interest of article directory owners if you submit your article to lots of article sites. They want you to submit to their directory, and write a new article, submit that to THEIR directory, etc.

People fail to understand how huge the Internet is, submitting your article to just one article directory, even a big one like Ezine Articles, is just one tiny drub in a big ocean.

If anybody thinks submitting the same article to lots of article sites is bad, there is of course the perfect solution nearby. Just contact Jon Leger and buy his article spinner

Tradeview · « **Reply #13 on:** July 06, 2010, 05:54:55 PM »

Quote from: harry on July 05, 2010, 09:18:57 AM

Quote from: leona on July 05, 2010, 08:44:20 AM
Perhaps the article directory site owners that tradeview talked with were misunderstood?

Look at it this way:
It is NOT in the interest of article directory owners if you submit your article to lots of article sites. They want you to submit to their directory, and write a new article, submit that to THEIR directory, etc.

People fail to understand how huge the Internet is, submitting your article to just one article directory, even a big one like Ezine Articles, is just one tiny drub in a big ocean.

If anybody thinks submitting the same article to lots of article sites is bad, there is of course the perfect solution nearby. Just contact Jon Leger and buy his article spinner

Submitting to hundreds of Directories is simply foolishness and totally not necessary. I have this on very good authority by a fellow who's been in the Article Directory field for a long time. You SHOULD NOT spam the directories! And as I said, Google won't index hundreds of the same articles to begin with. Now if you want to waste a lot of time peddling your rechewed articles to hundreds of directories.. go for it. I believe your time can be better spent with proper ARTICLE MARKETING.. something not being discussed here but is in fact the very key to getting the best bang for your money and time.

But not to worry, it is the lack of this understanding that makes it so profitable for those who do ARTICLE MARKETING, vs ARTICLE SPAMMING. And no, I am NOT kidding.

This reminds me of the dabate over illegal drugs. Many of the younger folks (in particular) want to do what they want to do... to have access to any and all drugs without any government interference whatsoever. To which I say, fine.. because it makes those of us who do not do drugs that much more valuable to the marketplace (you can't be stoned and work efficiently). That is simply a hard fact of life. And proper ARTICLE MARKETING will get you where you want to be much faster then simply spamming your articles all over the 'Net (which most people seem dead set on doing). But hey, if you want to do whatever it is you want to do.. go for it.

P.S: BTW: One of the best ways in which to use these "spinnable" articles is in "Black-Hat SEO Tactics"... but not to be implemented without great thought and not really discussable in this forum.

leona · « **Reply #14 on:** July 07, 2010, 08:03:35 AM »

As usual, Tradeview, your views are "interesting", your "advice" enlightening. Thanks for so freely sharing your understandings here.
Leona

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