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What's the point?
« on: August 08, 2010, 01:23:51 AM »
I don't understand the point of this program. I thought it would help to write 100% unique content. This is basically a basic spinner. The templates given are useless, even if they were updated enough, if too many people use them they will never pass copyscape. It apparently reads off thebestspinner database but why would you trust your content to other random people you don't know? I tested about 5 articles none passed copyscape. Even if you plan on changing every word in the template, good luck spending time doing that and having it make sense. I might as well just use a spinner if all I am getting is 30%+ uniqueness, which is what the creator is suggesting in this post here:

http://jlforums.com/instant-article-factory/unique/

So if all I am shooting for is 33% uniqueness, I will just not waste my time and use a spinner.

If anyone can tell me otherwise, please feel free.

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Re: What's the point?
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2010, 04:32:16 AM »
The point of IAF is to help you write articles.

Many people have no idea how to start to write an article. They don't know how to write something that gives the 3 major good points of an item or the 7 steps to process something. IAF gives you a template to do that. The templates also include spun content and allow you to include other spun content if you wish.

IAF also provides you with the means to create your own templates, so if you constantly write a particular kind of article that has a formula you can use, then you can create your own template for that, which makes creating your next articles a lot easier.

IAF does not claim to help you write 100% unique content, that is not its point.

Once you have written your article, you then need to ensure that it is sufficiently different from others already on the internet. That can be done manually, if you wish by rewriting the article in your own words, or you can use a spinner if you wish. The post you referenced did NOT claim that articles would be 30%+ unique, it said that you should AIM to make your articles 33% unique or better.

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Re: What's the point?
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2010, 07:56:19 PM »
mataleao: Totally agree with you and disappointed as well, it is faster and easier just to re-write an article 2 or 3 times which is not spun and will pass copyscape 100%. As you have to do something similar after you use IAF. I have ask for a refund. Great idea but needs 100's of pre-made template. As not everyone wants to spend more time on that.
It is good for some people for sure and good idea and has it use. Just not for me.


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Re: What's the point?
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2010, 09:24:01 AM »
The templates are spun at the paragraph, sentence and synonym level. Usually there are upwards of 1 million possible variations in the paragraph-sentence area only. That is before the synonyms are added. After 500 to 1000 uses the templates are retired, new ones are written for replacements.  So you won't find much duplication in the templates area.

Spinning your text to avoid "duplicates" is a bit like wearing a bullet-proof vest to avoid being shot. For body armor, the question is, bullet-proof against what? A 9mm pistol? Or a 50 caliber machine gun or sniper rifle? The heavier the round you want to stop, the heavier, thicker and bulky-er your armor has to be. There comes a point where it weighs so much you can hardly move around.

There is a necessary trade-off between protection and mobility.

The same with spinning. If you want to get credit for backlinks on articles posted, you need about 30% difference between copies. Some say 50%, to be sure. That's good enough for backlinks, but it won't pass Copyscape. That's O.K. for backlinks because Google doesn't use Copyscape.

If you want to pass the filters at ezinearticles.com, you will need over 95-98% uniqueness.

[EZA has rejected 3-4 articles of mine that I sat down, dreamed up and typed onto a blank page, with no other text involved Nothing being copied, original creation. Turned out that I used a particular unique, personal turn of phrase that I had used before, in another article, a year or so earlier. So I had to resort to Copyscape to find the problem and fix it. Once fixed, the articles all passed and were published.]

And no, articles coming out of IAF will probably not pass Copyscape, not be accepted by EZA, because they were never intended to. They were intended to pass Google et. al.'s 30% rule, which includes the other text on the same page where published.

With article writing the "spin to uniqueness" trade-off is between percentage uniqueness and speed of production.  IAF is intended/was designed to give the user speed in production and "good enough" uniqueness to get users the primary benefits of article writing, which are getting backlinks and direct traffic from readers' click-throughs.   ;)

Of course, spinning your own text, or taking your finished article from IAF to TBS and spinning it further before releasing could help. Also, EZA is arguably the most picky Article Directory out there. There are 1000's of others that will happily accept IAF articles for publication.

Also, if you ever do have a problem with an article being rejected for duplicate content, do what I do, check it with copyscape or http://www.dustball.com/cs/plagiarism (free), then change whatever part of your text comes up as too similar to something else, and re-submit...

"It's better to light one small candle than to curse the darkness..."   :)




« Last Edit: August 10, 2010, 09:32:25 AM by jorchav »

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Re: What's the point?
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2010, 11:08:59 AM »
Jorchav,
This was a fabulous summary IAF, TBS, Google, Copyscape, Ezinearticles.com/other online directories as well as the MAIN purpose for IAF. It would be disappointing if someone is buying the program thinking that the templates will provide 100% original content in 5-10 minutes.

No template is going to provide that and you mention many good reasons why.  As well as the fact that one can manually write original articles and still have issues with "originality" for various reasons. 

You gave a fantastic personal experience with this exact issue.  Many newbies are coming in without the understanding of the BIG picture regarding webpages, article content and its purposes, article spinning, How Google works, how online directories work, why submit articles, online marketing, affiliates, Adsense, HTML, CSS, etc... et. al. It can be a bit mind blowing.

The individuals that do the best are people who have experience and see what the possibilities are with these programs and have been trying achieve the speed/output on their own or outsourcing! There is a steep learning curve for newbies. I think there should be a NEWBIE sections for EACH program (Vocabulary, FAQs, not just for the programs but the field in general. Also a headsup on other programs). as so many are coming from so many different areas, with huge expectations and not always a clear understanding that much of the "rave reviews" are within context of what niche the programs are being geared towards... production/speed/variations/spinning.

Thanks so much for sharing. It was like having a mini-class. ~ Blessings! Lisa

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Re: What's the point?
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2010, 05:33:07 PM »
Maybe what's needed is for Jon to make it clearer that this program cannot create 100% unique articles. Personally I find it "interesting" but I haven't done much with it because for me it's more of a "trinket".. not something that I cannot do without.

However, I would like to encourage further development of this program so on that ground, when come due, I will probably renew my description just to show support. But, that's me.  8)
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Re: What's the point?
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2010, 06:03:40 PM »
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change whatever part of your text comes up as too similar to something else, and re-submit...
"It's better to light one small candle than to curse the darkness..."

Jorchav 8),

These are very well written instructions. Makes it all come together..

Somehow I am not surprised!

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