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Just Picked Up KS, So far...not that impressed. Here's why..
« on: November 08, 2013, 06:20:42 PM »
I put that title to hopefully grab someone's attention that can direct me on the proper way to take advantage of the filter tools or direct me to where there are video tutorials on tricks for using Keyword Snatcher.

I can see how this tool could be super powerful for finding long tail keywords with your main keyword in it within a niche or finding niches in general, but

So far on 4 or 5 different main keywords I've typed in, let it run, and then imported the data (10,000 keywords or less at a time) to Google Keyword Planner, I am getting better results just using the Google Keyword Planner by itself. Yes, just using GKP by itself gives way less keywords, but they seem to be more relevant w/ higher search volume, higher cpcs, etc.

For example if I put into Keyword Snatcher the keyword: world traveler

then take the first 10,000 keywords that Keyword Snatcher gives me and plug them into Google Keyword Planner, I actually get better results if I just use Google Keyword Planner by itself by plugging my main keyword right into GKP. I find more relevant, higher search volume, higher CPC keywords.

When I bought this tool, I was kind of hoping it would give me a bunch of different keyword ideas the way that Google Keyword planner does, just a whole bunch more, but it seems like it just gives me a ton of long tail keywords that have my main keyword in them and most of those keywords are garbage?

Can someone please shed a little light, I have faith :). Thanks!!!

Re: Just Picked Up KS, So far...not that impressed. Here's why..
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2013, 11:45:59 PM »
I put that title to hopefully grab someone's attention that can direct me on the proper way to take advantage of the filter tools or direct me to where there are video tutorials on tricks for using Keyword Snatcher.

I can see how this tool could be super powerful for finding long tail keywords with your main keyword in it within a niche or finding niches in general, but

So far on 4 or 5 different main keywords I've typed in, let it run, and then imported the data (10,000 keywords or less at a time) to Google Keyword Planner, I am getting better results just using the Google Keyword Planner by itself. Yes, just using GKP by itself gives way less keywords, but they seem to be more relevant w/ higher search volume, higher cpcs, etc.

For example if I put into Keyword Snatcher the keyword: world traveler

then take the first 10,000 keywords that Keyword Snatcher gives me and plug them into Google Keyword Planner, I actually get better results if I just use Google Keyword Planner by itself by plugging my main keyword right into GKP. I find more relevant, higher search volume, higher CPC keywords.

When I bought this tool, I was kind of hoping it would give me a bunch of different keyword ideas the way that Google Keyword planner does, just a whole bunch more, but it seems like it just gives me a ton of long tail keywords that have my main keyword in them and most of those keywords are garbage?

Can someone please shed a little light, I have faith :). Thanks!!!

Hi,

This Daniel Walls from the support desk at AskJonLeger.com.  You certainly have raised a valid point regarding this product.  Below you will see a few suggestions Jon Leger himself provided on how to best utilize the KWs you obtain from KS.

====START OF SUGGESTION====

In addition to the discount reminder, I also wanted to
take some time to explain how you can benefit from using
the new Keyword Snatcher 2.0.  A few people have asked me
how exactly to use the tool since AdWords doesn't display
any kind of search volume for many of the keywords
it finds.

It's not that there isn't any search volume for these
keywords in Google. We know that there is because these
keywords are coming directly from Google's search
suggestion drop-down list (which is built from keywords
people actually enter into that box, so you know there's
searches being done).

The thing is that AdWords doesn't show any search volume
for keywords that get less than 10 searches per month.
That means that a keyword can be generating more than 100
searches a year but show up blank in the AdWords tools.

This is especially true because AdWords doesn't include
the searches performed at their partner sites by default.
That's an option you have to know about to add into the
results. Did you know about that option? How many
webmasters do you think there are who DON'T know you
can do that?

Including the search partners can add up to 20% or more
in search volume. Here's an example:

My favorite keywords, "old time radio", shows 22,000
monthly searches using the default values in the AdWords
Keyword Planner. But if you add in the search partners,
that number jumps to 27,100 -- more than 5,000 searches
per month added, over 60,000 a year!

But let's say that even with the search partners a set
of keywords gets only 100 searches a year, showing up
blank in the AdWords tools.  Why would you want to target
a set of keywords like that?

There are many reasons:

===========================================================
REASON #1: They're easy to rank for
===========================================================

Because the search volume is low, and because AdWords shows
no search volume (even though we know there ARE searches,
as explained earlier), these keywords are typically super
easy to rank for. Other webmasters ignore them completely,
so there's virtually no competition.

It often doesn't take much more than writing an article
that targets the keywords exactly for you to pop into
the top rankings. Add a couple of links to that article
and chances are you're on top of Google's results.

===========================================================
REASON #2: Their search volume adds up over time
===========================================================

Let's do some math on the profit potential of these kinds
of keywords.

Let's say you could write 3 articles a day, 5 days a week
targeting 3 different sets of these keywords. That's not
hard at all. A solid article for these kinds of keywords
shouldn't take you more than half an hour to whip up.

If you did that consistently for one year, that would be
780 articles in one year.

If you averaged 100 visitors per article per year, that's
78,000 unique visitors.

If each article targeted a product that made you $50 per
sale, even if only 1 person in 50 buys the product you
would have made almost $80,000 off of that traffic.

Write another 780 articles the second year and that figure
is more like $150,000 -- because your first year's
articles will still generate traffic!

See how fast those small search counts can add up to big
dollars? Of course, I can't guarantee any specific amount
for any specific keywords, but I think you get what I'm
saying here.

============================================================
REASON #3: These keywords tell you EXACTLY what people want!
============================================================

Many of the keywords are razor targeted so that you know
EXACTLY what the searcher is after. Present them with
EXACTLY what they're looking for and your conversion rate
should be much better than 1 in 50, which only further
improves your bottom line.

Compare that to very broad keywords that get a lot of
searches but could represent many different intentions
on the part of the searcher. You can't target your page
for exactly what every person is looking for, so you
really only profit from a fraction of those searchers--
IF you can beat out all of the competition to rank for
the keywords at all.

Not so with the keywords found by Keyword Snatcher 2.0.

As I said in a previous email, these keywords represent
the 40% of searches that go unanswered (according to
Microsoft's study done a couple of years ago).

Webmasters are ignoring these keywords because 1) they think
they're less valuable than they are and 2) most of them
never show up in the AdWords tools to begin with -- and
that's the only tool those webmasters know about!

But you know about Keyword Snatcher 2.0, so YOU know where
to get all these keywords that THEY don't know about.

That 40% is yours for the picking, Daniel.
And 40% of Google's 2 billion annual searches equals
a WHOLE LOT of traffic and profit potential...

YOU can be the one answering those queries, and profit
by providing those answers and the products that go
along with them.

Re: Just Picked Up KS, So far...not that impressed. Here's why..
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2013, 01:30:58 PM »
wow, Jon! Thank you for this very detailed and information explanation!

Re: Just Picked Up KS, So far...not that impressed. Here's why..
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2013, 01:33:41 PM »
I mean "informative" explanation!

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Re: Just Picked Up KS, So far...not that impressed. Here's why..
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2014, 05:42:12 PM »
Hopefully some one will see this

Given these keywords are so non competitive, if you put them into social web 2 sites would that be enough for google to find them? If you spun reasonable content with the keywords embedded?

Just a thought.

Thanks
Tex


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Re: Just Picked Up KS, So far...not that impressed. Here's why..
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2014, 03:48:08 AM »
It isn't possible to guarantee anything here. ;) However social sites are well indexed and certainly heavily spidered that is because they provide a kind of outreach program for web pages.

By this I mean that search engines understand that they can not spider all the content in the world, that not every worthwhile page has incoming links and that people are, in the end, the best determinants of value of a given page and thus set of information.

By extension we can thus infer that social sites, in general, are a good place to drop a link or two even if the link gives no authority benefit because the existence of the link on a page shows that somebody thought it worthwhile to tell the world about its existence.

But there's a gotcha - there always is.
Social sites are about people so if you post rubbish then it will not do you much good, you will get buried or banned and that means you will be waging a war that you can not win against the 'social' element of these sites. For that reason if you are going to be spinning stuff up make sure that the output meets, at the very least, your own standards of value: would YOU read the snippet or post and click on the link?

Secondly, given that in many cases, all that you need to do in order to rank well for a given long tail keyword is write a closely focused piece of content and put it on YOUR site then the chances are that you'd be well served to put content on your own sites that is based around these keywords, do basic link building, and wait for the magic to happen.

To that end, on my WordPress sites, I write long tail content and then publish snippets from those articles using a particular format, not spinning, to a few social sites - just four at the current count but each one gets between about 50 and 100 snippets from the original article on different accounts.


Re: Just Picked Up KS, So far...not that impressed. Here's why..
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2014, 11:09:04 PM »
I put that title to hopefully grab someone's attention that can direct me on the proper way to take advantage of the filter tools or direct me to where there are video tutorials on tricks for using Keyword Snatcher.

I can see how this tool could be super powerful for finding long tail keywords with your main keyword in it within a niche or finding niches in general, but

So far on 4 or 5 different main keywords I've typed in, let it run, and then imported the data (10,000 keywords or less at a time) to Google Keyword Planner, I am getting better results just using the Google Keyword Planner by itself. Yes, just using GKP by itself gives way less keywords, but they seem to be more relevant w/ higher search volume, higher cpcs, etc.

For example if I put into Keyword Snatcher the keyword: world traveler

then take the first 10,000 keywords that Keyword Snatcher gives me and plug them into Google Keyword Planner, I actually get better results if I just use Google Keyword Planner by itself by plugging my main keyword right into GKP. I find more relevant, higher search volume, higher CPC keywords.

When I bought this tool, I was kind of hoping it would give me a bunch of different keyword ideas the way that Google Keyword planner does, just a whole bunch more, but it seems like it just gives me a ton of long tail keywords that have my main keyword in them and most of those keywords are garbage?

Can someone please shed a little light, I have faith :). Thanks!!!

You're living in the old keyword research times where it was about one article per keyword.

One of the most powerful aspects of keyword snatcher is it allows you to delve deeply into your niche. The goal isn't necessarily to find longtails to rank for, since that's the old approach.

These days SEO is about ranking for themes and providing supporting LSI content. You have your core volume keywords from the adwords kw planner, but you still need to write lots of supporting content to build relevancy and authority. Rather than just coming up with articles you think are useful, by having access to a huge volume of keywords, you can pick actual articles ideas based on what people are searching for. It all creates relevancy, authority and nice tight themes that cast a wide net and bring in targeted traffic.