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Getting content for 2.5 Million pages
« on: July 10, 2011, 09:41:04 PM »
Hi,

I purchased the best spinner a few days ago, didn't plan to do article marketing but thought I would play with it to see if i could produce a large amount of unique content for my website. Perhaps somebody can chime in and tell me if Im going about this right or if they have any better idea's to accomplish my goal.

I have a web directory of service providers.. Its on a very old and established domain, Currently I have about 40,000 free ads posted on the site in the USA..

Right now I have most cities in the USA in the directory with actual landing pages, something around 25,000. I want to expand this to be a worldwide directory covering all cities in the world. So basically my goal is to achieve good rank for long tail keywords.. In my sites case all ads basically target the same service, and all are IN-PERSON local services.. example: "Fork Lift Drivers New York" "Fork Lift Drivers London England" and i want to try and capture all of these long tails versions in the world.

Problem is I don’t have content for these landing pages and using only titles and meta and maybe an H1 seems like I might get my site in trouble with google or the pages will never get indexed, so some articles/filler content for each city would be nice. If that’s the case I would need about 2.5 million spun articles and that seems like a daunting task to accomplish and still keep them from looking like Gibberish.

I have been working months with a programmer to design what has become a very complicated site for re-launching this directory to offer pages worldwide, but now I feel I might have wasted some development time, and also just plain don’t know what the best way to accomplish this is now. I have a built in article spinner on the site but I feel its going to produce a lot of junk content that is not very readable..

So here is my idea, and please feel free to tell me its stupid and I should do something else (if you know what you’re talking about of course)

1.   Make a TIPS/ADVICE/FACTS area on each city page of the directory. These would show at or near the top of every city page on the site but get pushed down once people place their free ads.. 

2.   Have a writer produce 1000 tips on topic which would benefit both service providers placing ads, and visitors looking for service providers. Each of these tips might be 25 to 50 words long. I felt using TIPS would be much easier to create this large amount of unique content compared to an article once they get mixed and matched later.

3.   Spin each of these tips/facts 20 times using TBS to create 20,000 unique tips

4.   Place all 20,000 of these into a database, and every page on the site would randomly grab 10 tips from the pool and insert them in every city in the directory.. I guess im shooting for 80% unique or better for every page but that is just a number I came up with I don’t know what is optimal..

I have no clue about the Math of this, or if this would result in giving the site enough unique content, but it seems like there is a ridiculous amount of combos, Probably way into the millions or billions if each page is randomly pulling 10 from the 20,000 pool
to make each page appear to have unique content..

Anyway appreciate anybody who might have some advice as to how I should proceed or if my idea is even sane.

Thanks

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Re: Getting content for 2.5 Million pages
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2011, 07:54:39 AM »
I can't give you a definitive answer on this but you may wish to investigate the use of the data merge feature in The Best Spinner. If you have a lot of pages all about (for example) fork lift trucks and your website covers lots of cities, then you could make content for pages as follows:

This is a sample article on fork lift trucks (I produced this in 2 minutes using IAW3). It's not really an article - if I were going to use it, I would have done more research and would tidy up the text.

With all the fork lift trucks for sale, the choices can be a little overwhelming.  In many cases, there are very few local outlets that offer fork lift trucks for sale.  The X-brand fork lift trucks  are known for their service efficiencies and guarantee programs. Fire Extinguisher - all fork lift trucks should be equipped with a fire extinguisher in the event of a fire.  The operators drive fork lift trucks over rough and sometimes muddy terrain through narrow aisles in outside storage areas.

I would then MODIFY the article to allow for it needing to be different on each page for the relevant city, so I would add in place marker text where I would want the data merge text to go.

MODIFIED
With all the fork lift trucks for sale in CITYPLACE, the choices can be a little overwhelming.  In many cases, there are very few local outlets that offer fork lift trucks for sale.  The BRANDPLACE fork lift trucks  are known for their service efficiencies and guarantee programs.    Fire Extinguisher - all fork lift trucks should be equipped with a fire extinguisher in the event of a fire.  The operators in CITYPLACE may need to drive fork lift trucks over rough and sometimes muddy terrain through narrow aisles in outside storage areas and BRANDPLACE fork lift trucks will fit this need perfectly. One tip you may wish to consider when purchasing a fork lift truck is TIPPLACE.

With data merge, you will have a whole list of places and brand names (or whatever you want your pages to cover. When you data merge, the article will contain a city name where CITYPLACE is and a fork lift brand name where BRANDPLACE is. (You can use any place marker text you like instead of CITYPLACE, etc. It's best to use nonsense, so it won't be spun and I put it in capitals so it is easily checked out if necessary.)

Assuming your data merge text for cities is: London, New York, Paris, Kansas, etc and for brand names is Hyster, Caterpillar, JCB, etc

Then your first article will read:

With all the fork lift trucks for sale in London, the choices can be a little overwhelming.  In many cases, there are very few local outlets that offer fork lift trucks for sale.  TheHyster fork lift trucks  are known for their service efficiencies and guarantee programs.    Fire Extinguisher - all fork lift trucks should be equipped with a fire extinguisher in the event of a fire.  The operators in London may need to drive fork lift trucks over rough and sometimes muddy terrain through narrow aisles in outside storage areas and Hyster fork lift trucks will fit this need perfectly. One tip you may wish to consider when purchasing a fork lift truck is Your tip number 1.

The second article will read:
With all the fork lift trucks for sale in New York, the choices can be a little overwhelming.  In many cases, there are very few local outlets that offer fork lift trucks for sale.  The Caterpillar fork lift trucks  are known for their service efficiencies and guarantee programs.    Fire Extinguisher - all fork lift trucks should be equipped with a fire extinguisher in the event of a fire.  The operators in New York may need to drive fork lift trucks over rough and sometimes muddy terrain through narrow aisles in outside storage areas and Caterpillar fork lift trucks will fit this need perfectly. One tip you may wish to consider when purchasing a fork lift truck is Your tip number 2.

Of course, with the tips, you could just have them available as spintext, so the tips are included at random.

Hope this helps.

EDIT:
Here is a page on how to use Data merge http://www.howtospinbest.com/dm111576.html
« Last Edit: July 11, 2011, 08:01:40 AM by Meg »

Re: Getting content for 2.5 Million pages
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2011, 09:46:39 AM »
Hi Meg,
Thank you very much for the detailed response.  Currently this is exactly how the internal spinning system on the script my programmer has written works. I create many paragraphs, articles, ect. This also works on the Titles, H1, SEO url’s, meta and many other elements on a page. I  can copy past articles into the system that contain variable calls [city] [state] and many other global type variables, then I can also create unlimited keyword lists [forklift-types] , [forklift-models] [keyword-or-sentence-or-whatever-i-want] and this will spin in the different keywords, sentences, cities info, it effectively works the same as the “data merge” feature you describe in such detail with best spinner..

I guess I was hoping to find a better solution.. The way you describe this, and the way my own system works both produce extremely similar content, I guess was looking for a way to improve upon that. I have seen many sites employing what you describe and very few if any make this look at all good. The reason I came up with the TIPS/FACTS is because it seemed that it could offer much more variation to
cover 2.5 million pages and still be somewhat useful. I may end up going with the solution you outline but by breaking it down into 10 parts , effectively 10, one sentence tips on each page, this would still be useful and different to visitors and more importantly Google ?.

I definitely don’t know if anything I say is very good to do.. I don’t want my site banned by google because I used the same article on 2 million pages and just changed out a few words in them. Im also hoping somebody with a similar issue with large amounts of pages might post how they implemented content on a lot of similar pages with success..
Anyway thanks again for your reply and link.

Re: Getting content for 2.5 Million pages
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2011, 03:14:10 PM »
Meg,

Thanks for the information for the website. You are awesome!!

Bob

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Re: Getting content for 2.5 Million pages
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2011, 09:18:30 PM »
Meg,

Thanks for the information for the website. You are awesome!!

Bob

You're welcome.  ;D