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Major Google Update (April 24th)
« on: April 24, 2012, 08:58:46 PM »
Hey everybody,

Google has pushed out a major update. They say it only affects 3% of queries, but that's not the case from what I'm seeing -- it's affecting a lot more.

Here's the official announcement from Google for what they did:

http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2012/04/another-step-to-reward-high-quality.html

In theory what they're saying they're targeting is a good thing (backlink spam), but I'm reading from all over the place that webmasters who were 100% white hat are getting slammed, too.  No spam, no poor quality spinning or backlinking like Google's example on the above page shows.

I'm also seeing some really low quality results in Google. Here are some examples:

1. "Make Money Online"

Search Google for "make money online" and check out this site that's currently ranking on page one:

makemoneyforbeginners.blogspot.com

It's blank. 110,000 exact-match global searches a month for that phrase, and Google's showing a blank blog on page one. Wow.

2. "New Shoes"

This page is ranking high on Google for "new shoes" (it's bouncing between #1 and #3):

http://www.interpretive.com/rd5/index.php?pg=ns

Seriously Google?

3. "Bicycle Wheels"

Search G for "bicycle wheels" and you'll see:

#1 - ecommerce site
#2 - wikipedia entry for "bicycle wheel"
#3 - ecommerce site
#4 - ecommerce site
#5 - A book at Amazon ("The Bicycle Wheel")
#6 - ecommerce site
#7 - ecommerce site for bicycle parts in general (the ranking page has nothing to do wih the wheels though)
#8 - ecommerce page selling bicycle wheel stands -- not bicycle wheels
#9 - ecommerce site
#10 - page out of 1995 (literally) that has articles about bicycle wheels

Very poor results indeed.

Link Directories Still Working

For other queries that I follow, I'm seeing things holding steady with sites that use low quality directories to rank their sites. So apparently this update didn't affect sites using links pages to rank.

Google Turned Up The "Related Terms" Dial

It also seems that Google went a little crazy with their latent semantic indexing (LSI) dial. They're showing lots of results that simply do not belong on page one because they're not directly related to the query.

Overall Affect: Old Sites With Less SEO Ranking Better

Lots of old sites are being resurrected into the search results, apparently because they have been less optimized. Google has been saying for a while that they would be going after over-optimized sites. That's fine, but it's sadly pushing a lot of really poor quality stuff into the search results, at least for the queries I'm following. Stuff that simply should not be in very highly competitive results is ranking well.

I mean, seriously, THIS page is ranking on page one for "bicycle wheels"?

And it's not universal, either. Some sites with massive spam links are still doing great. Lots of theories floating around about this one.

Perhaps this will shake out over the next day or two. We'll see. Updates this large take a while to get fully integrated.

Anybody seeing anything good happen here?

Let's talk about it.

Jon
« Last Edit: April 24, 2012, 09:08:28 PM by Jonathan Leger »

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Re: Major Google Update (April 24th)
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2012, 09:12:52 PM »
Hi Jon,

I was on a webinar today that used almost the same examples as you. I haven't been able to find any of my sites today...and only one sale made in the last 24 hours. (I usually have a few more than that.) A few of my sites have approx. 300-400 original unique articles and I have been building on them for 4 years.

I honestly am at a loss as to what to do. 12 hours a day, 7 days a week...and still trying to make a few more dollars than what I spend!

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Re: Major Google Update (April 24th)
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2012, 09:19:49 PM »
I'm sorry to hear that Susan.

Don't freak out just yet, though. These things can take a couple of days to settle. I'm not promising anything, because it does look grim right now for a lot of people who were doing things "the right way", but hang in there.

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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2012, 09:19:49 PM »

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Re: Major Google Update (April 24th)
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2012, 09:22:07 PM »
Thanks Jonathan.

I do hang in there and it's due to people like yourself that I do.

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Re: Major Google Update (April 24th)
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2012, 09:24:08 PM »
Hey Jonathan,

I happened to notice this blog: makemoneyforbeginners.blogspot.com a few weeks back on the first page of Google and the first thing I thought was !!!. That is insane. It will be interesting to see how all this unfolds in the near future.

Guess I will have to return and see what others are finding as well. Thanks for the update.

Have a super evening.
« Last Edit: April 26, 2012, 04:10:54 AM by AminMotin »

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Re: Major Google Update (April 24th)
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2012, 09:25:46 PM »
I believe these issue rankings you find are just temporary.

With Google recently making a lot of changes to their algo; they have also making quite a few mistakes which they correct.

You will likely find them fixing these errors and equalizing things soon.

I know of another webmaster who had his site dropped from first page to bellow top 5. After discussing on the google webmaster forum he was informed by google employees they had some technical issue...his site was restored shortly when they fixed it

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Re: Major Google Update (April 24th)
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2012, 09:26:06 PM »
Its as if the results pages turned back a year...That Blogspot was ranking number one for over a year...and then Google gave him the axe. He was sharing too much great information on the secret to blogging...You know, anchor text, Pr, syndication...he was making excellent money with Adsense, then Google Shut him up...Interesting...I actually seen his page up a few weeks ago..on the first page results as well. The thing he has above all, Is High PR links coming to his site...from a lot of well known bloggers...SO good news is...Google still weighs high on backlinks..cause its apparent...That overweighs content...cause he aint got any...Man..Every day..we're on the edge...When is this going to stop!!!!!!

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Re: Major Google Update (April 24th)
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2012, 09:28:25 PM »
Thought I would register and share some results

2 micro niche sites with complete unique content all have dropped about 30 spots. Senukex and spinning using TBS was used for these. Not really too bothered as they were not big money makers but it is helpful to know the differences.

1 normal site I have with complete unique content, few blog comments made legit on same niche where they were approved by the webmaster, do-follow very very very low OBL. Some forum signature links on a legit forum account with legit posts. This moved up to about 3rd page from 10th today.

Forum I own with over 70,000 posts has moved up a lot. I used blackhat techniques for it but it doubled in traffic today.

10 of my clients sites where I use pure whitehat SEO have all moved up on google today.


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Re: Major Google Update (April 24th)
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2012, 09:29:48 PM »
Some of my sites was some other no.

What I can see they penalize repetition of same anchor, not enought variation in the anchor. (spammy anchor) in a non and related website.

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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2012, 09:29:48 PM »

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Re: Major Google Update (April 24th)
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2012, 09:29:53 PM »
Wow, I have been wondering about this all day. I have noticed that my site has fallen out of the SERPS for four of my most prized terms!

Kind of scary that one of the sites is a WP.com blog that I used a syndication plugin to post to and now ranks in the top five for one of my terms. The article isn't even a full article!

Hmmm....got to rethink my SEO and linking.

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Re: Major Google Update (April 24th)
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2012, 09:30:01 PM »
That's what I'm hearing a lot about (and seeing). Sites with high power links are still ranking even if they are otherwise "overoptimized".

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Re: Major Google Update (April 24th)
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2012, 09:35:14 PM »
Today my site shot up to page one for a very difficult term: "Sports picks"

It is PR 1. I expect it to bounce, but maybe not.

$$$'s for me right now  ;D
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Re: Major Google Update (April 24th)
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2012, 09:37:36 PM »
Today my site shot up to page one for a very difficult term: "Sports picks"

Just to try and get some details: what kind of backlinking have you done for that site?

Thanks!

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Re: Major Google Update (April 24th)
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2012, 09:38:07 PM »
Hi Jonathan,

Thanks for the post, and it totally coincides with what I've been seeing too.  For example, I've seen this website ranked on Page 1 of Google for a couple months now and it's been driving me absolutely nuts (this was even before 3 of my legitimate LLC-registered business sites took major hits recently).  Here's the copied search result, and note the meta description - LOL. 

It ranks#7 on Page 1 for "Mobile Marketing" with only "About 1,100,000,000 results"

Harper Design
www (dot) harperdesign (dot) com/
Index of /. Icon Name Last modified Size Description ยท Powered by Apache2Triad.


I have to ask Google: Why should this site be on Page 1 of the search results for months straight, when I've got a legitimate mobile marketing business (no AdSense, no affiliate links, not an auto-blog, etc.) that adds value and provides a true service to visitors/my customers?   


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Re: Major Google Update (April 24th)
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2012, 09:39:05 PM »
Poor Sheldon "Round" Brown... He's gonna catch a lot of flack for his passion about bicycle wheels and his amazingly crappy website. Of course, he does have 1,265 FB 'Likes' and that is only gonna climb as others start to pass his page around as an example. This is 'Eddie The Eagle' all over again, if you'll pardon the winter Olympics reference...

I wonder if anybody will pay any attention to the bottom of the page...

"If you would like to make a link or bookmark to this page, the URL is:
http: //sheldonbrown.com/wheels
Last Updated: 04/25/2012 05:33:25 by Harriet Fell"

Harriet Fell is a webmaster who should be outta work...!
« Last Edit: April 24, 2012, 09:40:41 PM by Canklefish »