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Re: Lost two Pinterest accounts in last 4 days
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2017, 07:39:07 AM »
I have not tested it yet, but if you have SM2 set at 75 pins in 24 hours and change it to 9:00 to 5:00, will it post 75 pins during those hours?

From what I've seen, yes....it tries to hit its quota for the day, every day.

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Re: Lost two Pinterest accounts in last 4 days
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2017, 08:32:38 AM »
I have not tested it yet, but if you have SM2 set at 75 pins in 24 hours and change it to 9:00 to 5:00, will it post 75 pins during those hours?
No, I don't think so, it i based on 24 hourz.

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Re: Lost two Pinterest accounts in last 4 days
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2017, 11:39:51 AM »
I have not tested it yet, but if you have SM2 set at 75 pins in 24 hours and change it to 9:00 to 5:00, will it post 75 pins during those hours?
No, I don't think so, it i based on 24 hourz.

Correct Meg....I asked the very same question on a different thread, it is based on a 24 hour clock, you need to scale up pinning accordingly if you want to hit your target number over a shorter period of time. Personally I pitch somewhere inbetweens as that tends to provide varying daily pin numbers which to my mind is what it is all about.

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Re: Lost two Pinterest accounts in last 4 days
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2017, 09:27:53 PM »
Just lost an account after 3 weeks which PT will not reactivate.

- Pinning ~150/day
- Pinning duration : 15-20hrs/day
- 100% URL

1st Msg from PT :
"We wanted to let you know we suspended your Pinterest account because of some activity that goes against our spam policies.

On Pinterest, spam includes saving lots of unwanted or repetitive stuff, trying to game our systems, or posting fraudulent, deceptive or unsolicited commercial messages. We block spam like this because it creates a bad experience for other people on Pinterest.

If you think we made a mistake, please let us know within the next 7 days."

2nd Msg
"We decided not to reactivate your account because most of your Pins go against our spam policy. You won't be able to access your Pins or messages, or sign up for a new account."

I think the issue is "saving lots of unwanted or repetitive stuff, trying to game our systems"

I'll reduce the # of hours, and URL % going forward, but i think will be great if Jon can consider the following 2 feature which I believe will be needed in the long run with PT admin tightening on the review.

1. Vary the # of pins between days, e.g Min/Max # of pins per Day

2. Vary the time interval between pins, e.g Min/Max # of mins between pins

For that matter, we could probably just implement #2 and if the Min/Max range is wide enough, #1 is automatically taken care of and wouldn't be an issue.

Of course, safeguards such as, e.g pins to be at least, e.g 3 mins apart and stopping after reaching target/day, etc are probably already in placed.

I'm monitoring traffic stats to see if the website has been blocked by PT.

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Re: Lost two Pinterest accounts in last 4 days
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2017, 09:48:22 PM »
I think another big issue is "Irrelevant pins".

The software will simply pin anything as long as the keywords match. Many images on Pinterest are already gamed and their keywords don't match their subject.

If you are pinning many irrelevant images, other people or Pinterest staff may notice. And they will guess you are using software.....

I see the limits to what SM2 can do, and unless you have the resources to keep creating new accounts or registering new domains, etc....the only way to keep your account and keep it "real" is --> to manually intervene regularly.....

I would rather become a Pinterest "Influencer" in the long run rather than having many small accounts that are always in danger of getting banned...

At least SM2 helps speed up that process, even if we still have to do the grunt work.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2017, 09:52:20 PM by gomedia »

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Re: Lost two Pinterest accounts in last 4 days
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2017, 02:47:31 AM »
gomedia is right, may have no choice but to invest in a VA for regular intervention.

Would love to be able to add VALUE, ie non-repins to the accounts, I bet that will add longevity significantly, if SM2 can alternate between posting some of our images and some repins, mixing things up.

Traffic's good, but it's hard to build a business based on hope that admins do not look up our accounts, and am sure every account has their share of irrelevant pins and footprints of automation.

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Re: Lost two Pinterest accounts in last 4 days
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2017, 08:22:13 AM »
Would love to be able to add VALUE, ie non-repins to the accounts, I bet that will add longevity significantly, if SM2 can alternate between posting some of our images and some repins, mixing things up.

You CAN already do this. You can set up on process to do repins and then set up another process to pin your own images. Getting a big enough list of your own images may take some work on your part, but SM2 can do what you are saying.

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Re: Lost two Pinterest accounts in last 4 days
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2017, 08:38:05 AM »
Thanks davidash2, didn't think of that.

Read in the forum about free images, if anyone has a good process of how to build a big list, appreciate your inputs.

Hope Jon will consider the frequency randomization in the upcoming updates


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Re: Lost two Pinterest accounts in last 4 days
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2017, 09:22:52 AM »
Just lost an account after 3 weeks which PT will not reactivate.

- Pinning ~150/day
- Pinning duration : 15-20hrs/day
- 100% URL

1st Msg from PT :
"We wanted to let you know we suspended your Pinterest account because of some activity that goes against our spam policies.

On Pinterest, spam includes saving lots of unwanted or repetitive stuff, trying to game our systems, or posting fraudulent, deceptive or unsolicited commercial messages. We block spam like this because it creates a bad experience for other people on Pinterest.

If you think we made a mistake, please let us know within the next 7 days."

2nd Msg
"We decided not to reactivate your account because most of your Pins go against our spam policy. You won't be able to access your Pins or messages, or sign up for a new account."

I think the issue is "saving lots of unwanted or repetitive stuff, trying to game our systems"

I'll reduce the # of hours, and URL % going forward, but i think will be great if Jon can consider the following 2 feature which I believe will be needed in the long run with PT admin tightening on the review.

1. Vary the # of pins between days, e.g Min/Max # of pins per Day

2. Vary the time interval between pins, e.g Min/Max # of mins between pins

For that matter, we could probably just implement #2 and if the Min/Max range is wide enough, #1 is automatically taken care of and wouldn't be an issue.

Of course, safeguards such as, e.g pins to be at least, e.g 3 mins apart and stopping after reaching target/day, etc are probably already in placed.

I'm monitoring traffic stats to see if the website has been blocked by PT.

I think Jon suggested 100 pins per day per url.

"100% url" - does that mean 1 domain or multiple?


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Re: Lost two Pinterest accounts in last 4 days
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2017, 05:14:48 PM »
Hi brokenthumbs, I was using 1 domain and only the domain URL, with no subpage URL, on every pin


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Re: Lost two Pinterest accounts in last 4 days
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2017, 05:25:44 PM »
I believe that is your problem. The account should be pinning less per domain and pinning to more urls and to more domains. 


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Re: Lost two Pinterest accounts in last 4 days
« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2017, 06:32:58 PM »
I believe that is your problem. The account should be pinning less per domain and pinning to more urls and to more domains. 


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I agree.

Jon mentioned several times in multiple posts and webinars that each pin job should include closely related keywords and linked to keyword related post from your site (not the home page).

The purpose of adding your link to the pin is to offer the visitor value when they get to the destination (your) site. If they have to search for the relevant content after getting to your site they are likely to get discouraged and leave. Also, Pinterest doesn't like the potentially poor experience their members may have experienced, therefore leading to the ban. Not absolutely sure of that, but it is highly likely the ban was closely related.

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Re: Lost two Pinterest accounts in last 4 days
« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2017, 07:26:11 PM »
I doubt banning is related to the targetedness of the URL in this case, but will adapt and monitor. Not everyone will be as rigorous to link to a specific LP, let alone even having a LP that's exactly related. The site has no ads and is related to the niche.

For the account, if I'm the admin, what's most glaring imo would be 1. the long hour pinning, which I will reduce, (but seemed fine for Jon's accounts), and 2. the fixed pinning intervals.

Randomized pinning may be software, but having 500 pins all pinned exactly 7mins apart is a dead giveaway if reviewed. In fact, Pinterest could detect this with algorithm without a human admin.

So, it could be URL, irrelevant pics, etc, but imo, these 2 factors are the most glaring for this case, which i have some ideas to overcome for the newer accounts.


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Re: Lost two Pinterest accounts in last 4 days
« Reply #28 on: January 10, 2017, 07:42:36 PM »
Just verifying and this may be a silly question... you are using business accounts?

You can also export every page's url for an entire site . I exported 3,500 urls in a matter of seconds and uploaded to sm2. Swap out the root 3 times and you have 14,000 urls in no time for one account to use.

I agree, if an admin reviews, you might still get a ban this way but what if you don't trigger an admin review by doing this?

I don't think you have to be 100% specific with the image to lp. It's more for conversions not admin reviews.


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Re: Lost two Pinterest accounts in last 4 days
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2017, 01:18:24 AM »
I doubt banning is related to the targetedness of the URL in this case, but will adapt and monitor. Not everyone will be as rigorous to link to a specific LP, let alone even having a LP that's exactly related. The site has no ads and is related to the niche.

For the account, if I'm the admin, what's most glaring imo would be 1. the long hour pinning, which I will reduce, (but seemed fine for Jon's accounts), and 2. the fixed pinning intervals.

Randomized pinning may be software, but having 500 pins all pinned exactly 7mins apart is a dead giveaway if reviewed. In fact, Pinterest could detect this with algorithm without a human admin.

So, it could be URL, irrelevant pics, etc, but imo, these 2 factors are the most glaring for this case, which i have some ideas to overcome for the newer accounts.



Randomized pinning has just been added to version 2.13 should help those who feel there are issues.