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SM ver Version 2.132 is not pinning correctly
« on: February 27, 2017, 02:42:18 PM »
Hello,

I have been using social multiplier for a while now.. and I was curious about how 1 of my accounts (6+ months old) was suspended on Feb 22nd.

So I check on my others accounts and I notice that there i nos notification since last week, around the same day... but the accounts are not suspended.
Social multiplier is pinning, but it is pinning the wrong URL... it stop pinning my URLs and it is pinning the original image URL. So, I am currently sending others webmasters my traffic

Is anyone experiencing the same?


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Re: SM ver Version 2.132 is not pinning correctly
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2017, 03:09:11 PM »
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So I check on my others accounts and I notice that there i nos notification since last week, around the same day... but the accounts are not suspended.

Social multiplier is pinning, but it is pinning the wrong URL... it stop pinning my URLs and it is pinning the original image URL. So, I am currently sending others webmasters my traffic

If SM2 is pinning the original urls rather than yours it means that Pinterest has decided your pins are either spam or inappropriate and are blocking them....if you are able to still pin you are not suspended or banned you just cannot pin the same site urls you originally did.

If you are able to check back through the "Error Log" far enough you will find messages relating to this from Pinterest....unfortunately the SM2 Notify function within SM2 is no longer working, as that would have notified you at the time the problem began :(

Re: SM ver Version 2.132 is not pinning correctly
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2017, 05:09:11 PM »
How could your account be suspended after 6 months? That is a long time...

This does not look good for SM2.

Can you give us more info, like what were you doing each day to last so long in Pinterest? You were probably doing something right to last so long, but still got suspended in the end....

Did you maintain your account manually in Pinterest or did you simply let it run by itself?

What were your account stats? How many followers did you have, how much traffic did you get?

Have you appealed to Pinterest to enable back your account?
« Last Edit: February 27, 2017, 05:11:20 PM by gomedia »

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Re: SM ver Version 2.132 is not pinning correctly
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2017, 04:41:58 AM »
An account can be suspended no matter how old it is. One way that happens is if that Pinterest gets too many bogus DMCA claims filed by the people who pinned the original image. Unless you respond to those claims, they will suspend the account.

Re: SM ver Version 2.132 is not pinning correctly
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2017, 05:33:04 PM »
Hello,

Yes my account was 6 months old.
It had 1.5K followers and was pining following the guidelines.

Social Multiplier was looking for the images and pinning them automatically, I can not control the DMCA because the software was pinning the images.
jonathan, Is there any way to avoid DMCA images with social multipliers?, maybe avoiding some keywords?

Re: SM ver Version 2.132 is not pinning correctly
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2017, 12:17:44 AM »
What I do is log into my Pinterest accounts every day, and I delete any images that seem off, or that I feel are not a good fit for my board. I have noticed SM2 pinning copyrighted images, such as by Getty. These are a no go.

I spend several hours each day to manually maintain my accounts.

You cannot leave the software to do everything, or sooner or later, you will get in trouble. It is just a matter of time before your account is suspended. It does not matter how little or how many images you pin per day. You have to maintain your accounts in good standing with Pinterest - every single day. SM2 is not a replacement for human input.

« Last Edit: March 01, 2017, 12:25:50 AM by gomedia »

Re: SM ver Version 2.132 is not pinning correctly
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2017, 02:49:24 AM »
What I do is log into my Pinterest accounts every day, and I delete any images that seem off, or that I feel are not a good fit for my board. I have noticed SM2 pinning copyrighted images

So - just for example - if you have - say - 125 accounts you login everyday 125 accounts, surf every board, watch every pic, think about every of them if are copyrighted or not, delete it and repeat it all day long.

Right?

Re: SM ver Version 2.132 is not pinning correctly
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2017, 03:07:43 AM »
Well, my take is this. If you opted for redirect strategy from the start, then you are already getting ready for at least some of your accounts to be closed. And if they get closed, then it is expected already.

But, my strategy is different. I opt for quality, not quantity. One of my accounts was even suspended not long ago but re-enabled back within a few hours of me sending in an appeal. Why? Was is because Pinterest could not find anything blatantly wrong with my account?

And I have not been having accoubts for 6 months, but I have a lot more followers than the OP. If it keeps up like this, I might have 10k followers in 6 months. This is all new ground, so I cannot say anything about the future.

If you are using redirects, most likely you are never going to build up a lot of followers for each account. You are already choosing quantity over quality with this strategy.

This is all just my 0.2 cents. YMMV.
« Last Edit: March 01, 2017, 03:10:43 AM by gomedia »

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Re: SM ver Version 2.132 is not pinning correctly
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2017, 06:05:31 AM »
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Social Multiplier was looking for the images and pinning them automatically, I can not control the DMCA because the software was pinning the images. jonathan, Is there any way to avoid DMCA images with social multipliers?, maybe avoiding some keywords?

I am not an attorney, so you should not take this as legal advice. But here's what Pinterest's terms of service says that all Pinterest users agree to when they create an account (business users and personal users):

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2. Your Content

a. Posting content
 
Pinterest allows you to post content, including photos, comments, links, and other materials. Anything that you post or otherwise make available on our Products is referred to as "User Content." You retain all rights in, and are solely responsible for, the User Content you post to Pinterest.

b. How Pinterest and other users can use your content
 
You grant Pinterest and our users a non-exclusive, royalty-free, transferable, sublicensable, worldwide license to use, store, display, reproduce, save, modify, create derivative works, perform, and distribute your User Content on Pinterest solely for the purposes of operating, developing, providing, and using the Pinterest Products. Nothing in these Terms shall restrict other legal rights Pinterest may have to User Content, for example under other licenses. We reserve the right to remove or modify User Content for any reason, including User Content that we believe violates these Terms or our policies.

Notice part b that I put in bold. That paragraph says that every Pinterest user has the right to "use, store, display, reproduce, save, modify, create derivative works, perform, and distribute your User Content on Pinterest solely for the purposes of operating, developing, providing, and using the Pinterest Products." A "derivative work" is a work that's based on, but not exactly the same as, the original.

Again, I'm not an attorney, but that tells me that all pins posted by the original copyright holder are legally available for all Pinterest users to use as they see fit as long as it's only used within Pinterest.

The problem is that Pinterest does not check whether the person filing the DMCA is either 1) the actual copyright holder and 2) if you respond saying "Wait a minute, your terms clearly state I can use other pinner's images as I see fit", they'll tell you to file a rebuttal claim. You can choose to file a rebuttal claim, but that could lead you down the path to eventually fighting over it in court.

If it's worth it to you to keep the account because it's very profitable, then you may decide to go through that process and fight it in court. For the third time, I'm not an attorney, but the language of the terms of service look pretty darn clear to me and it seems like you'd win in court.

For me personally, it's almost never worth it. By the time you're done paying attorneys and dealing with that, you've lost more money than the account would make you. So I just rebuild and move on.

Jon
« Last Edit: March 01, 2017, 06:07:19 AM by Jonathan Leger »

Re: SM ver Version 2.132 is not pinning correctly
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2017, 01:23:21 AM »
Yes, I am thinking about creating another account.

Since the website was not blacklisted, I am able to use it from another account...
So, that's a good news.

Re: SM ver Version 2.132 is not pinning correctly
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2017, 04:02:55 PM »
I looked at a number of pins by SM2 in my account today:

1. I noticed that the url link is mine and I did not find any pointing to someone else's website. So, I think I have SM2 set to use my link in 100% of the pins that it does.
    2. I noticed that what looks to be the original description (not anything submitted by me) on the pinned image description. I don't think that's desirable. Some descriptions even had urls and marketing messages, etc. Non of which would benefit me. Lol.

    I think SM2 can use more intelligence and even an edit page within the app that would allow views/revision/edits of pins and even deletions.  :D