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Can anyone explain what I've done wrong?
« on: September 23, 2011, 06:42:45 AM »
Hi there,

Sorry if this has been posted twice I wasn't sure if the first one had been posted correctly...

I'm a complete newbie with TBS and have been trying the following:

I'm trying to spin an article in the following way:

Title - Spun 4-5 times
Paragraph - Spun 4-5 times
Sentences - Spun 4-5 times.
Each Word - Spun as well

I followed the video in the help section called "The Sentence and Paragraph Spinner" and easily spun the paragraphs. However, when I tried to spin the sentences all of the spun paragraphs were coming up in the section for spinning the sentences.

So then instead of doing as per the video, as it wouldn't work, I highlighted each sentence and then spun it there, i.e added the new sentences that way. I have attached a screen shot of what I did.

Now that i have finished spinning the sentences I tried to view the spun articles but everythings really messed up.

Initially TBS advised me that "Your article appears to be improperly spun. Please make sure that all of the brackets in your article have proper open/close matched." So I went back through and thought everything was sweet.

Then after that it went really strange and created all of these mashed together spun articles which gave a word count from 380 to 38k.

I know it's something that I've done. I'd really like to know what it is so that I can move forward from this and stop ripping my hair out before I go bald :)

I've watched the videos and looked on the trouble shooter pdf and haven't come across anything that helps me with my situation....

Thanks in advance for your help!

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Re: Can anyone explain what I've done wrong?
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2011, 06:43:55 AM »
I was unable to upload the screen shot as I was told that the folder was full.

Sorry about that.

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Re: Can anyone explain what I've done wrong?
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2011, 02:28:33 PM »
I was unable to upload the screen shot as I was told that the folder was full.

Sorry about that.

The upload folder hasn't been available for a long time.  :(

Can you post a LITTLE of your spintext to see if there is an obvious problem? But it may well be just what it said - it may be improperly spun. If you want to try spinning in this depth - you could try using the Spin Wizard. It is part of TBS and will help you spin in great depth without having to see any curly brackets or pipes. Just be aware before you start that it can be a lengthy process, which is best done in one go and even spinning a short article can take quite a time - because it is VERY thorough.

Spintext example

This is sentence 1

{This is sentence 1|This is an alternative to sentence 1}

{{This is sentence 1|This is an alternative to sentence 1}|This is an alternative paragraph to sentence 1}



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Re: Can anyone explain what I've done wrong?
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2011, 11:38:25 PM »
Thanks for getting back to me.

Here is some of my spintext:

{Sources of Human Hair Wigs and Weaves|Where Do Human Hair Wigs Come From?|What Place Does A Human Hair Wig Come From?|Did You Know Where Human Hair Wigs and Weaves Come From?|The Places Where Human Hair Wigs Are Sourced From?|Find out where Human Hair Wigs Come From} |{Do Need A Human Hair Wig?|Why Choose A Human Hair Wig|What Makes Human Hair Wigs So Desirable?| Why Do Human Hair Wigs Cost More Than Other Wigs?|The Truth About Human Hair Wigs}|{Human Hair Wigs The Truth|Human Hair Wigs Exposed|The Reasons Why You Should Buy A Human Hair Wig|The Human Hair Wig experience|Why Choose A Human Hair Wig Over Synthetic Wigs?} {How Are Human Hair Wigs Made?|Where Does The Hair Come From To Make A Human Hair Wig?|Human Hair Wigs Are The Best Wigs To Buy For A Very Good Reason|The Reasons Why Human Hair Wigs Are The Best And Why They Last So Long|Choose A Human Hair Wig And You’ll Never Regret It}

{People donate their hair so that human hair wigs can be made.|The hair, to make wigs, comes from people freely giving their hair away.|At temples in Indian people have their head shaved as a form of penance. |Amazingly there are places in the world where people grow their hair to then be able to sell it.|People will either donate their hair or grow it so that they can sell it and make money.} {The hair from Human Hair Wigs comes from people donating their own hair.|Human Hair Wigs are made from real hair from people.|A human hair wig is called that as the hair is from a human person.|Many people benefit from having a human hair wig.} {By having people donate their hair companies can then make good quality human hair wigs.|When the hair is donated companies then will buy this hair and ship it to other companies around the world to make wigs.|It's big business for companies to be able to buy human hair.|When the hair is donated a company will buy it to sell on to other companies.|Even though it is human hair, there are many companies that would buy it so that they can make wigs.}

The first paragraph is the title that I initially spun 4 times then spun those 4 titles another 4 times each.

The second paragraph has been spun 4 times as a paragraph and then I manually spun each sentence 4 times. Then after 3 days of doing this I got the error message over and over again.... Nearly threw my laptop out of a 3rd story window ;D

Below is an example of what I am trying to achieve:


{{Learning Spanish Does Not Have to be Hard|How to Learn Spanish Easily|You Don't Have to Struggle to Learn Spanish|It Can Be Fun and Easy to Learn Spanish|Why Learning Spanish Is Not Difficult}|{Do You Need Help Learning Spanish?|Tips To Learn Spanish Quickly|Are You Trying to Learn Spanish?|Best Ways to Learn Spanish Fast|How to Learn Spanish Easily}|{Tips for Learning Spanish|Learning Spanish - Tips and Tricks|Tricks That Remove The Pain from Learning Spanish|Learning Spanish - Hints & Tricks To Learn Faster|Time-Shaving Tricks To Learn Spanish Easier and Faster}|{So You Need Help Learning Spanish|You Want Some Help Learning Spanish|Looking for Help Learning Spanish|Seeking Help Learning Spanish|Desperately Seeking Help Learning Spanish}|{Quick Hints To Help You Learn Spanish|Learn Spanish - Fast Learning Tips|Learn Spanish - Tips for Quick Learning|Learn Spanish - Helpful Hints for Learning Quickly|Learn Spanish - Smart Tips For Fast Learning}}

{Even someone who has never tried to learn a different language can learn Spanish.|You can learn to speak Spanish, even if you've never studied a foreign language.|Learning Spanish can be accomplished by anyone, no matter what their prior experience with languages.|Whether or not you've ever spoken a single word of another language, you can learn Spanish.|Learning Spanish is something you can definitely do, even if it's the first time you've ever tried to learn a foreign language.} {Learning languages seems like a daunting task but everybody is capable of doing it.|It is widely believed that new languages must be hard to learn, but it's something anyone can pick up.|New languages are a skill like anything else, and one that anyone can acquire.|Speaking a language for the first time may seem difficult, but anyone who makes a serious effort can learn how.|The fact is, anyone can learn to speak a new language, as long as they are willing to give it some serious study.} {After all, there are a lot of great reasons to learn a language other than the one you grew up speaking.|When you think about it, you can probably think of many advantages to being able to speak another language.|In today's global culture, there are so many benefits to being multilingual.|Being able to speak more than one language gives you an instant advantage in many ways.|Having the ability to converse in another language is a valuable skill to have nowadays.}

Thanks in advance for your help! ;D

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Re: Can anyone explain what I've done wrong?
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2011, 08:46:02 AM »
I hope the following is helpful.

You do not need TBS to spin paragraphs and sentences. You can do it on your Text Editor. Once you have finished working on Paras and Sentences if you paste the text part by part into TBS and spin word/ phrases the work can be done.

I remember there is a 65,000 or so characters limit on the length of a text in TBS. I think that's the maximum a database can handle or something.

That would mean a 500-word article spun your way may hit the limits.

I must say your spin specification is on the exceptional side. The fact is: it is possible to still get non-unique pair of versions when you spin.

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Re: Can anyone explain what I've done wrong?
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2011, 09:31:14 AM »
Hi SNM,

Thanks for you valuable advice ;D

Please bare with me as I am not the most techie of people.... When you say "Text Editor" do you mean Notepad or something completely different?

Then when you say "Once you have finished working on Paras and Sentences if you paste the text part by part into TBS and spin word/ phrases the work can be done."

Do you mean copy and paste each paragraph/section into TBS and then spin the words/phrases?

Thank you for taking time out to help me, I really appreciate it. Once I have the answers I can get back to work! Whoa Hoo! ;D

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Re: Can anyone explain what I've done wrong?
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2011, 12:18:37 PM »
Thanks for getting back to me.

Here is some of my spintext:

{Sources of Human Hair Wigs and Weaves|Where Do Human Hair Wigs Come From?|What Place Does A Human Hair Wig Come From?|Did You Know Where Human Hair Wigs and Weaves Come From?|The Places Where Human Hair Wigs Are Sourced From?|Find out where Human Hair Wigs Come From} |{Do Need A Human Hair Wig?|Why Choose A Human Hair Wig|What Makes Human Hair Wigs So Desirable?| Why Do Human Hair Wigs Cost More Than Other Wigs?|The Truth About Human Hair Wigs}|{Human Hair Wigs The Truth|Human Hair Wigs Exposed|The Reasons Why You Should Buy A Human Hair Wig|The Human Hair Wig experience|Why Choose A Human Hair Wig Over Synthetic Wigs?} {How Are Human Hair Wigs Made?|Where Does The Hair Come From To Make A Human Hair Wig?|Human Hair Wigs Are The Best Wigs To Buy For A Very Good Reason|The Reasons Why Human Hair Wigs Are The Best And Why They Last So Long|Choose A Human Hair Wig And You’ll Never Regret It}

{People donate their hair so that human hair wigs can be made.|The hair, to make wigs, comes from people freely giving their hair away.|At temples in Indian people have their head shaved as a form of penance. |Amazingly there are places in the world where people grow their hair to then be able to sell it.|People will either donate their hair or grow it so that they can sell it and make money.} {The hair from Human Hair Wigs comes from people donating their own hair.|Human Hair Wigs are made from real hair from people.|A human hair wig is called that as the hair is from a human person.|Many people benefit from having a human hair wig.} {By having people donate their hair companies can then make good quality human hair wigs.|When the hair is donated companies then will buy this hair and ship it to other companies around the world to make wigs.|It's big business for companies to be able to buy human hair.|When the hair is donated a company will buy it to sell on to other companies.|Even though it is human hair, there are many companies that would buy it so that they can make wigs.}

The first paragraph is the title that I initially spun 4 times then spun those 4 titles another 4 times each.

The second paragraph has been spun 4 times as a paragraph and then I manually spun each sentence 4 times. Then after 3 days of doing this I got the error message over and over again.... Nearly threw my laptop out of a 3rd story window ;D

Below is an example of what I am trying to achieve:


{{Learning Spanish Does Not Have to be Hard|How to Learn Spanish Easily|You Don't Have to Struggle to Learn Spanish|It Can Be Fun and Easy to Learn Spanish|Why Learning Spanish Is Not Difficult}|{Do You Need Help Learning Spanish?|Tips To Learn Spanish Quickly|Are You Trying to Learn Spanish?|Best Ways to Learn Spanish Fast|How to Learn Spanish Easily}|{Tips for Learning Spanish|Learning Spanish - Tips and Tricks|Tricks That Remove The Pain from Learning Spanish|Learning Spanish - Hints & Tricks To Learn Faster|Time-Shaving Tricks To Learn Spanish Easier and Faster}|{So You Need Help Learning Spanish|You Want Some Help Learning Spanish|Looking for Help Learning Spanish|Seeking Help Learning Spanish|Desperately Seeking Help Learning Spanish}|{Quick Hints To Help You Learn Spanish|Learn Spanish - Fast Learning Tips|Learn Spanish - Tips for Quick Learning|Learn Spanish - Helpful Hints for Learning Quickly|Learn Spanish - Smart Tips For Fast Learning}}

{Even someone who has never tried to learn a different language can learn Spanish.|You can learn to speak Spanish, even if you've never studied a foreign language.|Learning Spanish can be accomplished by anyone, no matter what their prior experience with languages.|Whether or not you've ever spoken a single word of another language, you can learn Spanish.|Learning Spanish is something you can definitely do, even if it's the first time you've ever tried to learn a foreign language.} {Learning languages seems like a daunting task but everybody is capable of doing it.|It is widely believed that new languages must be hard to learn, but it's something anyone can pick up.|New languages are a skill like anything else, and one that anyone can acquire.|Speaking a language for the first time may seem difficult, but anyone who makes a serious effort can learn how.|The fact is, anyone can learn to speak a new language, as long as they are willing to give it some serious study.} {After all, there are a lot of great reasons to learn a language other than the one you grew up speaking.|When you think about it, you can probably think of many advantages to being able to speak another language.|In today's global culture, there are so many benefits to being multilingual.|Being able to speak more than one language gives you an instant advantage in many ways.|Having the ability to converse in another language is a valuable skill to have nowadays.}

Thanks in advance for your help! ;D

OK,
Let's take the title first.
This is your spintext
{Sources of Human Hair Wigs and Weaves|Where Do Human Hair Wigs Come From?|What Place Does A Human Hair Wig Come From?|Did You Know Where Human Hair Wigs and Weaves Come From?|The Places Where Human Hair Wigs Are Sourced From?|Find out where Human Hair Wigs Come From} |{Do Need A Human Hair Wig?|Why Choose A Human Hair Wig|What Makes Human Hair Wigs So Desirable?| Why Do Human Hair Wigs Cost More Than Other Wigs?|The Truth About Human Hair Wigs}|{Human Hair Wigs The Truth|Human Hair Wigs Exposed|The Reasons Why You Should Buy A Human Hair Wig|The Human Hair Wig experience|Why Choose A Human Hair Wig Over Synthetic Wigs?} {How Are Human Hair Wigs Made?|Where Does The Hair Come From To Make A Human Hair Wig?|Human Hair Wigs Are The Best Wigs To Buy For A Very Good Reason|The Reasons Why Human Hair Wigs Are The Best And Why They Last So Long|Choose A Human Hair Wig And You’ll Never Regret It}

Let's deconstruct it. I am going to use colours to show the "{" and "}" and how they relate to what you are getting.

I have put "red" around the first two curly braces. Within those braces, you will get just 1 of the phrases. Either Sources of human hair and weaves OR Where do human hair wigs come from OR... etc.

I have put "blue" onto the 2nd set of braces. In addition to getting 1 phrase from the first (red) set of braces, you will now ALSO get a phrase from the 2nd (blue) set of braces, so you will get "Do you need a human hair wig" OR "Why choose a human hair wig" ... OR ....

In addition, you will also get a phrase / title from between the GREEN braces and ANOTHER phrase from between the PURPLE braces.

I take it that you only wanted one phrase from this whole section as your title? If you now look at your Spanish text piece, can you see that the section begins with a double brace? "{{" This is what tells TBS that there is NESTED spinning. That section also ENDS with a double brace "}}" - you have to balance it out.

In your title part, you need to start and end with a double brace around the whole section. There is also a "|" character missing within the section, so even with the double braces front and end, you are currently still getting two phrases for your title. The "|" character needs to go in btween the } and { just before the last set of phrases. Really, though, you know, having all those braces and pipes "|" makes it more complex than it needs to be. If you just want 1 phrase out of all that lot, you just need 1 curly brace at either end and a pipe symbol between each phrase.

So the following would be the simplest version:
{Sources of Human Hair Wigs and Weaves|Where Do Human Hair Wigs Come From?|What Place Does A Human Hair Wig Come From?|Did You Know Where Human Hair Wigs and Weaves Come From?|The Places Where Human Hair Wigs Are Sourced From?|Find out where Human Hair Wigs Come From|Do Need A Human Hair Wig?|Why Choose A Human Hair Wig|What Makes Human Hair Wigs So Desirable?| Why Do Human Hair Wigs Cost More Than Other Wigs?|The Truth About Human Hair Wigs|Human Hair Wigs The Truth|Human Hair Wigs Exposed|The Reasons Why You Should Buy A Human Hair Wig|The Human Hair Wig experience|Why Choose A Human Hair Wig Over Synthetic Wigs?|How Are Human Hair Wigs Made?|Where Does The Hair Come From To Make A Human Hair Wig?|Human Hair Wigs Are The Best Wigs To Buy For A Very Good Reason|The Reasons Why Human Hair Wigs Are The Best And Why They Last So Long|Choose A Human Hair Wig And You’ll Never Regret It}

You can deconstruct the second portion in the same way. Currently it picks 3 phrases from all the ones you have provided, to make 3-sentence paragraph. Maybe this is what you wanted?

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Re: Can anyone explain what I've done wrong?
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2011, 11:36:40 PM »
8dcase,

Your understanding is correct.

I use Textpad which is available free. It doesn't have Notepad's limitations. There are other text editors people use. Notepad++ is one such which also pairs the brackets by colors I'm told.

You're putting TBS to the stiffest capability test by your spin spec. But do introspect on whether you're overdoing actually.

Regards
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Re: Can anyone explain what I've done wrong?
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2011, 12:58:58 PM »
Hi Meg,

Thanks for getting back to me :)

I really appreciate you input as it has cleared up what I was doing wrong in the whole spun article! It works much better now except for one thing....

In the Spanish spun text, that i'm using as an example, I noticed that there are the "}|{" in some of the spun sentences and then some "{{" at the beginning at of some sentences and some "}}{{" in some spun sentences and the article ends with "}}"

What does that tell TBS to do?

The reason I ask is that at the moment when I put my corrected spun text into TBS the total word count is over 1,000 words and the original article is only around 350 - 400 words.

When I put the "Learn Spanish" spun article into TBS with all of those "}|{, }}{{" the word count is 349.

So I know that they do have an impact but I just would like to know what it is so that I can implement it into my own article and reduce the word count accordingly.

Thanks!


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Re: Can anyone explain what I've done wrong?
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2011, 01:05:01 PM »
Hi SNM,

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

I followed you advice and it's helped loads. ;D

Yes, this is super duper spinning and as this is my first time spinning so it's all a bit of a learning curve.

I think it will work as the spinning is working now thanks to yours and Megs help :)

I've just got one more kink to work out and then I'll be cooking on gas, as this strategy will yield me hundreds of spun articles with good content. So all of this hard work will pay off in the end ;D

Thanks.

Mary

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Re: Can anyone explain what I've done wrong?
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2011, 01:33:34 PM »
Hi Meg,

Thanks for getting back to me :)

I really appreciate you input as it has cleared up what I was doing wrong in the whole spun article! It works much better now except for one thing....

In the Spanish spun text, that i'm using as an example, I noticed that there are the "}|{" in some of the spun sentences and then some "{{" at the beginning at of some sentences and some "}}{{" in some spun sentences and the article ends with "}}"

What does that tell TBS to do?

The reason I ask is that at the moment when I put my corrected spun text into TBS the total word count is over 1,000 words and the original article is only around 350 - 400 words.

When I put the "Learn Spanish" spun article into TBS with all of those "}|{, }}{{" the word count is 349.

So I know that they do have an impact but I just would like to know what it is so that I can implement it into my own article and reduce the word count accordingly.

Thanks!

{word1|word2} - tells TBS to choose EITHER word 1 OR word 2

{{word1|word2}|{word3|word4}} - you will get only 1 word from this. {word1|word2} tells TBS to choose only 1 word of this. Similarly for {word3|word4} and the extra {} at start and end, together with the "|" in the middle tell TBS to choose only 1 of the 2 sets of brackets.

BUT if you have {{word1|word2}{word3|word4}} - you will get 2 items. You will get word1 word3 OR word1 word4 OR word 2 word3 OR word 2 word4. There is only 1 difference between the two and that is, that there is no "|" between the }{.

Real example

I write a particular sentence.

I create an alternative to this sentence. TBS puts it like this:

{I write a particular sentence.|I create an alternative to this sentence.}

TBS will give you one or the other, not both.

Now I decide to have a possibly, entirely different start to this article.
TBS writes it like this:

{{I write a particular sentence.|I create an alternative to this sentence.}|Now I decide to have a possibly, entirely different start to this article.}

I could have written this more simply, in the same way I showed in the earlier article but now I decide that I might like another alternative beginning.

{{I write a particular sentence.|I create an alternative to this sentence.}|{Now I decide to have a possibly, entirely different start to this article.|Now I decide that I might like another alternative beginning.}}

NOTE: the double curly braces, start and end. All braces must match - you must not have any singletons.

This spintext will produce only 1 sentence (or title). Wherever you see a "|" you can say to yourself, "OR", ie {This|That} = This OR That

On the other hand, I could start with, "Mary had a little lamb"

{Mary had a little lamb|Jane obtained a tiny pig} = EITHER "Mary had a little lamb" OR "Jane obtained a tiny pig".

{{Mary had a little lamb|Jane obtained a tiny pig}, {it wanted to stay in the house with her.}} = EITHER "Mary had a little lamb, it wanted to stay in the house with her" OR "Jane obtained a tiny pig, it wanted to stay in the house with her"

Hope this helps.

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Re: Can anyone explain what I've done wrong?
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2011, 11:38:24 PM »
Hi Meg,

That has nailed it for me!

Everything is working a treat and I really appreciate al of your help and also your timely responses ;D

Mary

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Re: Can anyone explain what I've done wrong?
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2011, 06:58:13 AM »
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{word1|word2} - tells TBS to choose EITHER word 1 OR word 2
{{word1|word2}|{word3|word4}} - you will get only 1 word from this. {word1|word2} tells TBS to choose only 1 word of this. Similarly for {word3|word4} and the extra {} at start and end, together with the "|" in the middle tell TBS to choose only 1 of the 2 sets of brackets.
BUT if you have {{word1|word2}{word3|word4}} - you will get 2 items. You will get word1 word3 OR word1 word4 OR word 2 word3 OR word 2 word4. There is only 1 difference between the two and that is, that there is no "|" between the }{.

Meg :D (Miss TBS),

This is great info, not just for a newbie, it really helps!!

HJ
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Re: Can anyone explain what I've done wrong?
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2011, 07:05:31 AM »
Hi Meg,

That has nailed it for me!

Everything is working a treat and I really appreciate al of your help and also your timely responses ;D

Mary

You're welcome.  ;D

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Re: Can anyone explain what I've done wrong?
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2011, 07:06:54 AM »
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{word1|word2} - tells TBS to choose EITHER word 1 OR word 2
{{word1|word2}|{word3|word4}} - you will get only 1 word from this. {word1|word2} tells TBS to choose only 1 word of this. Similarly for {word3|word4} and the extra {} at start and end, together with the "|" in the middle tell TBS to choose only 1 of the 2 sets of brackets.
BUT if you have {{word1|word2}{word3|word4}} - you will get 2 items. You will get word1 word3 OR word1 word4 OR word 2 word3 OR word 2 word4. There is only 1 difference between the two and that is, that there is no "|" between the }{.

Meg :D (Miss TBS),

This is great info, not just for a newbie, it really helps!!

HJ


Thing is, TBS does all of this for you automatically! It really is a clever program isn't it?  :D